National Reciprocity - coming soon!!

[BB62]

I want to tell you about National Reciprocity!! It is coming soon - no lie!!

The trouble is, it's not the kind we're all interested in. But is does raise some interesting questions, like "Isn't interesting that $tate$ can come together when it "matter$" and not when it doe$n't?".

So you say you'd like National CCW Reciprocity? Who wouldn't?

Read about this *nearly complete* effort, inform others, and ACT. Act not only about the reciprocity being discussed, but inform others of the obvious dichotomy involved - $$ YES!, CCW - NO!

The issue here is Sales Tax reciprocity. This nearly complete effort is designed to get all the states to agree to common definitions of what is taxable, to apply sales taxes to internet purchases, and to add new lines to your state's income tax form to collect "use tax" on out of state purchases.

There is a very snazzy web page documenting all this - just think - your state is working on RECIPROCITY!! YEAH!! The trouble is, when your wallet is involved, you are a valuable citizen - when your CCW is involved, you are a dangerous, loathsome element.

The initiative is called the "Streamlined Sales Tax Project". Check out this MAP. If only CCW reciprocity looked this good, eh?

Here is a web PAGE which describes the nature of the beast, and another LINK to the cover page of the effort. Unlike the e-mail taxation scam, this effort is NOT a scam, except on you.

Here's another LINK for your reading pleasure.


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[RaggedClaws]

My state (NY) income tax form already has a "use tax" line where I'm supposed to estimate the dollar amount of goods I purchased out of state that I did not pay state sales tax on (like internet purchases). Really pissed me off

 

[BB62]

Try to get NY to "come together" with others over CCW - hmmm?

 

[Poodleshooter]

[Cough] Stamp Act! [cough]
Strict enforcement of use tax laws would cause an uproar of protest,which would probably be good. Maybe we could get rid of these stupid "non-competition" taxes that penalize citizens for giving preference to businesses in states with tax rates more favorable to consumers. Compliance rates with use tax laws are terrible,hence the concern that some state AG's have for enforcing use tax laws. It's usually the AG's from high sales tax states like CA and NY who are so "concerned" about this,as their citizens purchase out of state to avoid the sales taxes that support their bloated home state budgets. These proposed laws would also greatly hamper "internet only" retailers. Without the benefit that a lack of sales tax nexus provides, their prices effectively rise making them less competitive. Local retailers are usually the big drivers behind this kind of reform.
I like my internet purchases the way they are: hard to trace and difficult to enforce taxation on.

The idea of a government caring about any perceived conflict in law is laughable. It would simply be explained away.

 

[2nd Amendment]

They can add all the lines on the tax form they want. Writing a few more zeroes is very easy...

 

[BB62]

If Congress takes the "nexus" requirement out, writing a few more zeroes is most definitely NOT going to be easy.

 

[Hardware]

Buy products from companies in Delaware. No sales tax here. I am making a couple of calls to my Senators and representative.

 

[BB62]

Hardware,

Federal and State, I hope!

A good question to put to them - how come they are so anxious to "work together" to shear the sheep, yet not to tend the flock?


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[Don't Tread On Me]

I am extremely against national concealed licensing.


Those in gun-ban states are a lost cause. Those in somewhat free states would probably have to compromise standards. Imagine what some States would demand? Scary.


Sorry, but if you really want a CHL, move to a free state. Don't drag the rest of the nation down so that some evil gun-banner states can gain heavily controlled concealed carry.


If anything, I am almost pleased with the heavy gun control in some states. Without them, we wouldn't have any domestic example of gun-control's failure.

 

[NHBB]

I see from that map NH is simply an "observer" state. god bless... but with lynch in office who knows what may come of it.

 

[Antjo]

My state (NY) income tax form already has a "use tax" line where I'm supposed to estimate the dollar amount of goods I purchased out of state that I did not pay state sales tax on (like internet purchases). Really pissed me off

Unfortunately, so does MI.

 

[BB62]

Don't Tread On Me,

I appreciate your post to the thread I started - but you may have overlooked the point...

Did you read the initial post and the links provided?

My point was not to say that there ought to be national CCW licensing!

My point was look at the motivation and drive by those at the state level when their "intere$t$" are involved, and the lack thereof when they are not.

Check out the initial post thoroughly if you didn't - I think you'll find it interesting!


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[GunnySkox]

Why does everyone get their hackles up whenever someone mentions having to pay sales tax on internet purchases? Yeah, you got a free ride on buying things on the 'net up until now, did you think they weren't going to notice that people buy eight bajillion dollars worth of crap on the intertron? Did you really, honestly think that the states would just not care about losing sales-tax revenue?

I'm somewhat irked, obviously, as the prices at some of my favorite places to shop will go up some, but, as I see it: A) it was inevitable, and B) the FedGov has the power to dabble in interstate commerce (there's a part in the constitution where that power is specifically enumerated).

I do agree with the basic premise of the initial post, though. It's deeply infuriating that the government jumps up and gets real' excited when they get to tout the constitution as a justification for doing something in their own interest, but immediately tosses it aside as a mere "living document" whenever it's convenient to do so.

Random thought: Is there anywhere where a state with no income tax borders a state with no sales tax? You could live right on the border, and cross over to purchase stuff.

~Slam_Fire

 

[mfree]

I have a feeling that Tennessee would end up gutted and relying on a *gasp* income tax, like the one we've been fighting against n'ee on 100 years.

 

[CleverNickname]

Random thought: Is there anywhere where a state with no income tax borders a state with no sales tax? You could live right on the border, and cross over to purchase stuff.

Washington has no state income tax, and Oregon has no state sales tax.

 

[Chris Rhines]

Ditto Montana and Wyoming, although I cannot remember which is which.

Slam_Fire:

Why does everyone get their hackles up whenever someone mentions having to pay sales tax on internet purchases?

I object to paying taxes, period, and I would hate to see one of my favorite tax-evasion loopholes get closed.

- Chris

 

[Waitone]

My former state NC took the simpleminded approach. Forget taxing actual transactions. NC just assumes you make internet purchases. So it hits your gross income with a percentage and gooses you tax by the appropriate amount.

No muss, no fuss, no unpleasant discussions about actual transactions.

 

[dpesec]

Follow the money

Well, let's see we can always look at countries that don't have a VAT tax and buy from them.

 

[io333]

If anything, I am almost pleased with the heavy gun control in some states. Without them, we wouldn't have any domestic example of gun-control's failure.

Wow! Excellent point! I had never thought about it that way before.

 

[BB62]

If anything, I am almost pleased with the heavy gun control in some states. Without them, we wouldn't have any domestic example of gun-control's failure.

Golly gee!

I couldn't have been more wrong-headed then. Maybe we should push for more bastions of liberal idiocy around the country to use as "examples".

Sheesh.


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[atek3]

Random thought: Is there anywhere where a state with no income tax borders a state with no sales tax? You could live right on the border, and cross over to purchase stuff.

Washington and Oregon... Lots of people in klickitat county, washington pay no income tax, and shop at the walmart in oregon to pay no sales tax... as it should be.

atek3