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Need a better scope for a RWS springer

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Title says it all. Bought a scope (granted it was cheap) but also said it was designed for the air rifle double recoil of a springer. Get it dialed in fire a few shots and it starts to walk, sometimes high, sometimes low, sometimes right, sometimes left, sometimes a combination of several of the above. Mounts are tight, reticule isn't broken so don't know the cause, but I am tired of missing easy squirrels raiding my bird feeders!... :banghead::cuss:

TIA!
 
Leapers has a good reputation for airgun scopes that don't break the bank.
What were you sighting with before using this scope?
 
I've had good, long-term results with a couple Bushnell Elites (one of them eventually found it's way onto a mini-14, and still going strong).
 
My first question would be RWS what?

Then my second question would be are you 100% sure the scope is not walking on you. Put a little tape in front and behind the scope and on the receiver on the rifle, take a few shots. If you see the tape getting scrunched up you know something is moving and you need to address it. Provided everything is good, I agree I like Leapers, just get one that is "magnum" rated and some good....GOOD mounts and you should be fine...you might also need a "stop"....PA should be able to help you out with a good setup....good company to deal with.
 
It's the RWS 34 and the scope is tight and not moving

What were you sighting with before using this scope?

It had open sights before and those worked well except my eyes aren't quite what they used to be so I added the scope
 
I had the same problem with mine, went through 2 high dollar scopes. A Beeman and a RWS. I bout a $30.00 4 power, and it has lasted the longest. I will follow this thread, since I will probably need a new one now that I have jinxed myself.
 
Thanks for the suggestions

With Christmas around the corner, it gets harder and harder to come up with ideas for "things" since we already pretty much have what we need and want.......(well, except for my Perazzi and Ferrari)
 
Yep, Leapers has their T-S (True Strength) Platform that says the scope has been designed to use with springer airguns. One of their designers is a professional airgunner who had a hand in the creation of the line.

George P.
 
Check out the Hawke Optics line of scopes. They come highly recommended on the dedicated airgun forums. I have a 3-9x40 AO HD Sport that has held up well on a Stoeger X20S, with several thousand pellets down the bore. No issues to report. I believe the entire line-up from Hawke is spring gun rated. When failures have happened they come with a lifetime warranty. Their customer service is highly rated by users.

Whatever you get make sure it is spring gun rated. I'd also look for adjustable objective due to the shorter ranges most airguns are used for.
 
I've got a huge Barska on my model 34. Lighted reticle and a huge hood too. Not sure what model it is, but very accurate. It is 70 miles away at the cabin.
 
I have a Tasco World Class 3-9x40 scope on my Chinese clone of RWS48 in .177, hundreds pellets thru it still going strong.
 
Don't use use a center fire scope on a air rifle. Use a dedicated air rifle scope. Leapers is good, I use Winchester brand and others. Check reviews on air rifle sites. Never buy a GAMO, they are awful. Also use bases and mounts that have a recoil stop. It does depend some on what type of gun you use. Break barrel springer guns have very hard double recoil.
Pump up guns without springs are much milder as are CO2 powered guns.
 
The actual recoil doesn't hurt the scope at all, but the reverse recoil causes lots of problems, even breaking scopes. You should first try shimming the scope, regardless of what scope you end up with. Basically you want the body of the scope to match the barrel angle, or better yet the poi. As it is you probably have the elevation cranked out counter clockwise, so the scope is straight, barrel pointing down, pellet hitting even lower, and you have the elevation screw cranked out to make up for it. Sound about right?
To shim a scope I center the W/E screws, which is half way between fully in or out, or you can just look down inside the front lens and eyeball center. Shims can be made of many things, but metal is probably best, like that of a soda can. Put the cut to size shims (meaning full width fore/aft, and maybe 70-80% of the ring left to right) on the rear mounts saddle under the scope so it tilts the scope to point down more. How thick a stack of shims depends on how much the barrel is pointing down, and each additional shim should be a bit shorter (left to right) so the scope can still fit in there. Once you get shimmed so it's close to on target you can lock the ring caps down for good and use the W/E to dial it in normally. If you're wondering why, aside from wanting the lenses aligned, you want the inner tube of the scope to stay put. Looking into the front lens you can see there's a leaf spring holding the inner tube against the W/E screws, so when the screw(s) are cranked out it takes pressure off the leaf spring. Normally not a big deal in a firearm, but the reverse recoil is high G it can make that inner tube bounce and it doesn't always land back in the same spot. Having the screws turned half way in puts more spring tension on the tube to hold it better. Some people take it further and crank in an extra turn or so, including the windage screw, and shim accordingly. Another important item imo is repair and/or replace the main seal which no doubt leaks. Leaks at the main or breech seals cause higher G's, even breaking the scope. It's also a good idea to sand the seal to raise the compression ratio, similar to a car engine by reducing the dished space at the center of the piston. Reduce, not eliminate because the center is metal and if that hits the breech things will be much worse. Fixing the seal leaks and bumping compression also bumps power and makes the gun smoother and quieter. If this work is done correctly then you may even get away with a scope not rated for airguns, which I have done many times. Another problem is parallax, many firearm scopes have a fixed parallax of 100yards which is not usable for airgun ranges and will cause mysterious accuracy issues similar to the inner tube moving. Fortunately you can adjust parallax. Airgun scopes are typically set to 33yards, which is better, but many people at 10-20 yards so it's still be a problem. All this can be a pita, but at minimum you need to shim, and adj parallax if needed.
If you buy another scope I'd suggest one with adjustable parallax which is much easier to set for whatever range you're shooting at. That way you can go from 10yard targets to 50 yard shots very quickly. A typical 3-9x40AO is a good choice for an airgun and usually reasonably priced. You should also have a good scope ring setup, which you mentioned is holding, but keep an eye on it for aft movement. I have more detailed info on all of this stuff if needed, including more things to worry about but this post is already long.
 
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