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Depends how big the kid is. I was shooting my dads 12ga semi when I was 8-9 But I was a big kid. It did have a nice recoil pad on it as well. It all depends on type of gun, type of load and size of person shooting. Make sure the gun fits well and isnt too big. You can get a slip on recoil pad to soften the blow as well. If its a semi auto there is usually a good amount less recoil due to force of ejection. I have a 12ga single H&R and it kicks like a mule due to the design. Its a great gun for accuracy of slugs though!
Thank you! Having taught her big brother and sister shooting years ago, as well as several other kids, size, fit, recoil and chamberings have already been addressed. This is less of a which gun and more of a how do we get what we need thread. She handles recoil just fine, running .38s, .357s, .410s (single shots) and a 20 ga (sa compact) just fine. The .223 single shot she's been practicing with is nothing for her to blast away with. The 6.5 grendel discussed is less about recoil and more about efficiency in handling her planned uses. Paper, deer, and pronghorn are the only things she wishes to kill, the grendel grants her efficiency from a shorter barrel, acceptable down range performance on her targets, long lasting barrel life, and little comparative muzzle blast. She'll be able to chuck many more rounds downrange in a sitting with such a chambering than something with more horsepower.
If you don't mind the SBR route, check out the Pork Sword.
I LIKE THAT! On a 700 action, could be customized with appropriate bolt and barrel......really, could just grab the chassis and order up the appropriate barrel, bolt and 700 short action......hrmmmmmm..... In theory at least..... Put an ergo grip on it, short barrel..... Or maybe we're back to a custom xp 100 at this point..... But still a really cool concept! Maybe something I tackle for myself....
 
Am cross-eye dominant.

Taught myself to shoot Rt-eyed w/ both eyes open, pistol/rifle/shotgun.

9 yrs. old... is a good time to learn.




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Doing it the bassackward way might have worked for you, as it did (somewhat) for me, but it is not the best way for everyone, nor is it the way riflery (or archery or shotgunning) is taught today. Us left eye dominant/right handed shooting Neanderthals might not have had a choice back then, (left handed was still considered a sign of the Devil) but the first thing I did at orientation with the 4-H kids, and HS Trap shooters, is determine their dominant eye, and if it was left, have them try shooting that way, either with the gun they brought, or one of our left handed (Or O/U's of one of the coaches) guns. It eliminates several variables that can affect shooting. We've had kids who were trying to hold the left eye over the stock to shoot right handed because 'that's how Dad taught me" (but the were trying to use the dominant eye) and not hitting anything, got them to try shooting off the left shoulder, and they started shooting good. Shooting is hard enough for some kids to learn already, why make it harder?
In my own case, I learned to shoot from both shoulders for deer hunting, and used it in the Army, as well as pheasant hunting. I still shoot mostly from the right shoulder, but shut my L eye for static targets, partially for clays, but leave both open for birds.

Pork Sword. Gonna have to look into that.....not many wild ones up here though.
 
Ummm nooo the OP is trying to find the perfect gear to allow the little girl to enjoy shooting WITH her dominant eye (thus the MULTIPLE iterations of lefty friendly!?) And if shooting ambi is something she wishes to tackle, she can do so later.........
Thanks for explaining that she is left eye dominate. That is the first issue we address in 4-H gun training.
 
Thanks for explaining that she is left eye dominate. That is the first issue we address in 4-H gun training.
Absolutely, to clarify, she is LE RH lol, putting the controls on the left side should(I'm hoping) help her refrain from trying to shoulder the gun from the wrong side until her foundation is well laid!
 
Handedness really only applies to the task to which it is applied, and only scantly to new activities simply due to existence of neural pathways. This is relatively new science, as a greater proportion of folks TYPE for more of their life than they handwrite - so we’re seeing a shift in hand-dominance (neural pathway establishment) as generations become more naturally ambidextrous because of keyboards and phones in out lives.

Eye dominance, however, is effectively a permanent neural pathway which never changes unless the dominant eye is damaged or otherwise degrades. Studies in neuroplasticity do reflect we can “fight nature” temporarily, but the transition takes time and is never sustaining when the unnatural obstacle (cough, cough, tape over shooting glasses, cough, cough) is removed. Your brain will ALWAYS want to use that favored eye, and will come back to it when trucks and traps are removed.

Ultimately, you can teach a left hand all of the tricks it needs to manipulate a trigger. But you really can’t retrain your brain to rely upon the wrong eye. Maybe that’s the best way to describe it, neurologically - there is no “wrong hand,” whereas there IS a “wrong eye”.

Of course, as marksmen, we should practice all of the tricks and traps to be capable of shooting effectively with either hand and either eye, but these aren’t our standard mode of marksmanship.

A bolt action carbine with a 16-20” Sporter weight barrel in a lightweight chassis compatible with a Luth-AR MBA-3 dual adjusting carbine stock and threaded for a linear compensator would make a fantastic youth rifle.

Another one to consider, the Manners Compact Stock.... not designed as a youth stock, but short enough to be so, and able to grow with the youth into full adulthood. With a Remage set up and using a Manners Mini-Chassis, it can all be assembled without a smith.
 
I don't know how old it is but it is the way the U.S. Army taught me the "quick kill" in the 1960's. I have heard that it is derived from trick shooter's secrets. I don't want to explain it in depth.
 
I taught my grandson to shoot, who is cross eye dominant, to shoot with a Contender, first in the the .22LR in the pistol version, and eventually up to a 30-30 in the carbine, I'm not sure if they make any of the other barrels such as a 6.5 for the Contender, but you might look into the upgraded Encore which I'm quite certain they do have the now exotic calibers.

BTW he was at the time slimly built, and had no trouble with activating the barrel to reload.
 
left eye over the stock to shoot right handed
One of my sisters-in-law shoots like that, I've got no clue how she hits anything but she does.....
I can and do shoot from either side, but I have to use the eye on that side tried leaning over once just to see what it felt like...and it....yuck
 
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