So you have based the quality of Ruger firearms on what one former employee said a few years ago. Did he have facts to back that up? It seems you have based your facts on hearsay.
Two fmr employees actually, but I spoke to one more than the other and remember him more.
Did he have facts to tell me that his supervisors and managers told the employees to let bad parts go? Uh, what facts would those be? An audio recording? Videos? I took his word at heart, but if you want to call everyone a liar then let's close down the whole forum, nay, the entire internet for no one can be trusted!
Which means when he said the Single Action revolvers are the one thing he saw at Ruger that were well made, he was clearly lying. Thus, I guess he was lying about the $10.50/hr wage being paid then too and how the management at Ruger treats everyone like a robot. No cross training people, no promoting from within, they expect their production employees to do the same job on the same machine every day until they leave or die.
I had been a Ruger fan for years before meeting this co-worker, had even thought about applying to work there, but after talking to him, it sounded like Ruger was a company that breaks mans soul. Drive by their factory and wonder why they always have a "now hiring" sign out and advertise a $500 sign on bonus? Because their turnover rate is massive.
Same thing with Sig Sauer.
I can't say that Heritage isn't the same way, hell, they're probably the same now that Taurus owns them, but when I heard that Ruger was knowingly shipping bad product, that didn't sit right with me. You'd think that a company like Heritage or Kel Tec would be doing that, not Ruger.
But I guess that two videos and some reviews on the Wrangler don't hold as much truth as a former employee. You may have missed the photos of the two guns in one of the reviews. It was clear to see that Ruger has put more effort into the finish then Heritage does on their standard Rough Rider.
As for the videos, Jeff Quinn is a nice guy, but he's never been a gun critic, he's a gun presenter. Never in any of his videos does he make a negative or critical comment about the gun being covered in the video, I mean, he said the Remington R51 was "great" in 2014 and those were so bad, Remington recalled them.
I'm not saying he's a liar, but the guns that writers get, the Test & Evaluate ones, they get made better, they're not true production guns taken out of a pile and sent. My time in manufacturing, when you make something for presentation, you put more QC into it than what you normally would to impress people. It's like wearing a suit for a job interview vs your bath robe, common sense stuff.
You complain about people bashing the Rough Rider, but at the same time you have bashed the hell out of Ruger. This may not have been your intent, but that's what you are doing
I've bashed their revolvers, their semi auto handguns and their rifles I quite like, but I don't like how they drop one handgun line and start a new one so frequently.
There is a way to tell if you are coming across in a good way with your post. Look just below your text and see how many likes you get.
I call them like I see them, but opposing voices are rarely popular when it's mob rule.
But then this topic was not about which gun was better. It's about the new Wrangler. you are the one that seems to have taken it personal and make this topic almost unpleasant.
Again, didn't say I didn't like the Wrangler, just not impressed with it, just as I'm not impressed with a lot of what Ruger is doing now. I just see a lot of people hating on a gun they've never owned and bashing it solely on its design, materials, and appearance.
I did state that the hammer block safety is what kept me from buying a Rough Rider. It's not the fact that it works, no one has stated otherwise. It's ugly and takes away from the classic lines of a SAA revolver. Someone felt that a few people didn't like the look of the safety and made a plug to clean up the look.
Case in point.
You also keep harping about Adj. sights and nine round cylinders. I don't think that is the market Ruger is shooting for. I feel that they are shooting for the Cowboy market. That would cover Cowboy Action shooting and those that just want to go play cowboy in the woods or at the range.
I agree, they're aiming for the SASS and CAS crowd first and the skinflinters second. For just general plinking shooters the adj. sights are better and for those looking for a simple, low recoil self defense gun or fairly powerful trail gun, the 9 shot Heritage is an excellent choice, better than the Wrangler.