New Ruger Wrangler.... I'm confused

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It seems Ruger is getting back to its roots with decent quality and AFFORDABLE

Look at the Mini-14 and Hawkeye---both are sky high and beyond the reach of the average shooter both were sub-$500 not all that long ago------even the SR9 and RAP are priced like Glocks around here---for your $500 which are you going to take home? The 10/22 is $200+ at Walmart for the base model.

Ruger's pricing has been getting out of hand for quite some time---its good to see them trying to fix the error of their ways.

I'll have to actually handle one of the new .22's before I buy it ---but for now I'm in.
 
I've wanted a Single X for a long time. However the price has been the sticking point. I'll be looking to get one of these. Maybe we'll see a version with adjustable sights coming out too.
 
Jack B. said:
My Heritage has adjustable sights , steel cylinders 22LR & 22 magnum , 6.5 inch barrel , weighs 3.4 oz. more and has wood grips. It hasn't broke yet. I'll stay with my Heritage. Although I applaud Ruger for trying.
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They didn't simply try. Based on the acceptance already, they succeeded.
It is simply a better product with coil & torsion springs, Single Six safety system, a better appearance, and better manufacturing.
Most people will buy a .22 revolver at this price point as a plinker, so the sights are not a big deal.
.22 magnum is desirable to some, but not to others. Ammo is expensive compared to .22 LR and not that effective from a revolver.
The grips on the Wrangler have a well-made factory appearance while the wooden ones on the Rough Rider seem over-sized.
Both guns DO have steel cylinders, and barrel length is subjective. The Ruger Bearcat has only one barrel length and nobody cares.
And, other models may follow with other barrel lengths.
Heritage has a lot to worry about.
 
TTv2 said:
That's what I dislike most about it so far is it's going to be saddled with those terrible sights that seemingly never shoot to POA.
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Does that mean that nobody should buy the fixed sight Rough Rider, or any SAA revolver with fixed sights?
I'm sure that many CAS shooters and western buffs would take exception to that, with their expensive Ubertis and Vaqueros.
And my Bearcat and a Ruger Single Six with fixed sights both shot close to POA.
As well as a Webley, a Colt New Service, a Remington BP revolver, and several others.
But a Rough Rider, with glued-in barrel? Who knows?

Hell, if you want precision, buy a Single Six or a target pistol.
 
When I looked at the Wrangler again on Ruger's website it kind of reminds me of the old Colt Frontier Scout, especially the one with the silver Cerakote finish.
 
Thanks for the link ECVMATT. The chart and article state the grip is die cast zinc. Is that a deal killer for me? Nope. I will give one a try when I get a chance to. I am on the notify me list for the other link that was posted at $189 plus free shipping. What have you got to lose?
 
I seriously doubt the grip frame is zinc. Wouldn't be the first time RealGuns was off on details like that. They got the .454/.480 Bisleys totally wrong and slandered me for pointing it out.
 
TTv2 said:
That's what I dislike most about it so far is it's going to be saddled with those terrible sights that seemingly never shoot to POA.
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I agree. I too wish it had adjustable sights. But for less than $200.00, I'll probably buy one anyway - it will probably make a decent kit gun, or carry behind my right hip while I'm working outside, around our place gun.
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Heritage offers adjustable fiber optic sights with some of their revolvers and is the main reason I bought their 6.5" with adjustables last month.
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On the other hand, that fiber optic front sight is the main reason I haven't bought a new Colt Cobra.
 
although i don’t “need” one i’m all in for new ruger wrangler. looking at it im wondering if 22lr is only the starting caliber, as 38sp was with the initial ruger lcr. since a single action revolver can handle semiauto pistol ammo without moon clips how about a gamechanging $250 wrangler in 9mm or even 380acp? both rounds are generally cheaper than 38sp and alot of folks who like a ccw semiauto pistol in 9mm or 380acp might enjoy a plinker or woodswalker in the same caliber. at least i would!
 
$200.00!

WTH? Ruger expects me to pay TWICE as much than what the competition sells for?

They are darn right and I will be. As a dreaded “p*****r” I strongly believe in 2 is 1 so it falls right in the affordable price range. I am pretty much bummed out on all black guns but I will reserve making judgement on the colors until I actually see them.

Ruger is going to be making shopping easy for a lot of Gun Santa’s this Christmas
 
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I was considering a heritage just for the same reason I ordered the Wrangler, and I’m glad that I didn’t end up buying one as I think the extra $80 for the wrangler will be well worth it. But we’ll have to see when it’s in my hands and I can compare it to my brothers heritage.
 
Gtscotty said:
Boooo..... Hissssss......
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After looking up the actual material properties of Zamak 3, I'm less disappointed. While it's not up to snuff compared to something like 6061-T6, it's probably better in most regards than many of the most common die cast aluminums. The fatigue strength of Zamak 3 isn't great, but probably far more than required for a well designed grip frame on a .22 lr revolver. I'm still interested.
 
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I stopped in my local gunstore today and inquired about them while picking up a transfer.

The guys working says they'll be in stock in about a week and they're pretty excited about getting hands on with them.
 
GunnyUSMC said:
I think Ruger has done an outstanding job. The gun looks great with it’s traditional SAA style. It’s on my list of guns to buy this year.
Heritage has owned the market on cheap single action 22 revolvers for years, but that is easy when there’s no competition. I have a feeling that the Wrangler is going to hit Heritage like a stampede.

I have always hated the plastic hammer block on the Heritage guns.
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I don't mind the hammer block and that's mainly because I can dry fire it a bunch without having to worry about damaging the chamber.

I'm sure Heritage will lose sales now that Ruger has the Wrangler, but honestly those who hadn't bought a Heritage yet were never going to. Those who were thinking about it now have options, but when Black Friday comes and some of the Heritages are $100, how much will the Wrangler's be? $150? People are cheap and will still buy the Heritage because it's less.

I think Heritage will be fine and this might motivate them to start making more centerfire revolvers and for less to further undercut the Blackhawk. All I want them to do is bring back the .410/.45 Colt they were making before Taurus bought them and quickly discontinued thereafter. I like my Public Defender, but if I had the choice of that and the Heritage, I'd take the Heritage.

 
Old Stumpy said:
They didn't simply try. Based on the acceptance already, they succeeded.
It is simply a better product with coil & torsion springs, Single Six safety system, a better appearance, and better manufacturing.
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Let's wait for these to get into people's hands before we judge the Wrangler vs the Rough Riders.

Most people will buy a .22 revolver at this price point as a plinker, so the sights are not a big deal.
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And those who are relatively clueless will shoot it a few times, get patterns that look like they were shooting a shotgun and proceed to complain it's "not accurate." You would be amazed at the things people will complain about. I just think it would be smart for Ruger to offer adj. sights on the basis of improved performance.

.22 magnum is desirable to some, but not to others. Ammo is expensive compared to .22 LR and not that effective from a revolver.
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.22 Mag is pricey compared to .22 LR, but compared to centerfire ammo it's not that bad and it penetrates as well as .38 does. If .22 Mag wasn't that popular, then the Kel Tec PMR30 wouldn't be one of the most popular pistols on the market right now and the NAA mini revolvers would be all but novelty guns.

The grips on the Wrangler have a well-made factory appearance while the wooden ones on the Rough Rider seem over-sized.
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I can confirm that Heritage leaves a lot of wood on their grips. I could work them down to be more flush and probably will, but I'd rather not be tasked with doing that. If Heritage wanted to put plastic grips like what the Wrangler has on their Rough Riders, I wouldn't have a problem with that.

Both guns DO have steel cylinders, and barrel length is subjective. The Ruger Bearcat has only one barrel length and nobody cares.

And, other models may follow with other barrel lengths.
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The Bearcats have 3.5, 4.2, and 6 inch barrel length options, some with adj. sights. Ruger's not one to not give people options on barrel lengths.
Heritage has a lot to worry about.
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Maybe. I would say that with Ruger's QC issues lately, it's not a guarantee that Heritage is pushing daises, but with Ruger it seems the cheaper the gun, the better made it is. They are pretty much the king of rimfire guns and have been since the company began.
 
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