New Sig P365 - Light Strikes

[spar10]

I've never had an issue with light strikes before but I'm experiencing them with a new P365. The handgun is a recent manufacture date and I'm pretty sure it's not the ammo. It's seen two range days since I purchased it a few weeks ago. The first day out had 4 or 5 light strikes in the 400 rounds I put through it.

Thought it might have been the ammo (Federal) so yesterday I brought with my 226 and 239 to see if any of those would have troubles and they were both flawless. Put another 200 rounds through the 365 and had 3 more light strikes.

Any thoughts on what I should do? Does the gun need to go back to Sig? Is there something I can do to fix it?

 

[<*(((><]

Add another to the list, I've seen a lot of these threads on multiple forums recently.

I would check some different ammo, but regardless of the outcome I would send it back to Sig, I would make them pay for shipping both ways. You've shown that your two other guns will run the ammo flawless, this is a self-defense gun, it should run any factory ammo on the shelf that other guns will run.

I was on the fence and almost puchased an P365 XL but decided to go with a Glock 48 instead, sorry to say but I'm happy that I did.

 

[jonnyc]

You've got Glocks 43, 43X, and 48, no to mention the new Springfield Hellcats on the way. I honestly don't know why anyone is wasting their time with these unreliable Sigs. Yes, most work fine..........but which don't?!? I'm not going to find out!

 

[Fine Figure of a Man]

Contact Sig
I have nearly 4k rounds through my P365 and zero light strikes.

 

[340PD]

I have two P365's and one has well over 7000 trouble free rounds and that gun was one of the first out of the run.
Light strikes other than the obvious cause being a broken striker spring, is 99% of the time related to oil in the Striker channel. Sig sends the guns in full of oil where it is not needed.
If this was my gun, I would jump on YouTube and remove the striker which is a one minute job. Make sure the springs are not broken and I run a q-tip down the channel and made sure it was dry. (never get oil in that area).
If that fails to correct the problem, call Sig. The last one I had a customer send in was returned in just over one week.

You've got Glocks 43, 43X, and 48, no to mention the new Springfield Hellcats on the way. I honestly don't know why anyone is wasting their time with these unreliable Sigs. Yes, most work fine..........but which don't?!? I'm not going to find out!

You must have forgotten all the recalls with the little Glocks and Springfields. I doubt Sig will miss your business.

 

[FL-NC]

Were any mods made to the gun? If yes, take it back to stock configuration, If no, make Sig fix it. QC on Federal ammo shouldn't be an issue on any quality handgun.

 

[<*(((><]

I have two P365's and one has well over 7000 trouble free rounds and that gun was one of the first out of the run.
Light strikes other than the obvious cause being a broken striker spring, is 99% of the time related to oil in the Striker channel. Sig sends the guns in full of oil where it is not needed.
If this was my gun, I would jump on YouTube and remove the striker which is a one minute job. Make sure the springs are not broken and I run a q-tip down the channel and made sure it was dry. (never get oil in that area).
If that fails to correct the problem, call Sig. The last one I had a customer send in was returned in just over one week.

Good advice, hopefully that is all it is.

Sig should make sure the striker channels are free of oil when shipping out their handguns, this will haunt them on the boards and with customer's impressions if this is in fact the cause of issues. I bet 90%+ of the people who buy handguns do not clean them before shooting them (myself included from time to time).

I know that a lot of the press the P365 is getting is due to the high volume of sales (I'm not ignorant of that fact), but still there is some pause for me on these offerings.

 

[George P]

You've got Glocks 43, 43X, and 48, no to mention the new Springfield Hellcats on the way. I honestly don't know why anyone is wasting their time with these unreliable Sigs. Yes, most work fine..........but which don't?!? I'm not going to find out!

And yet, BOTH of mine work flawlessly - with reloads, 115s and 124s from a wide variety of makers.

 

[Zaydok Allen]

Call Sig. Give em a chance.

 

[TomJ]

I have another thread going on in regards to this. I have 2 P365's and 2 P365XL's (a backup for each). All four have been back to Sig for light primer strikes, with the most recent on it's way back not, and I should have it Wednesday. The culprit for all were the recoil springs, which Sig replaced. Send it back to them, and at the very least I expect them to replace the recoil spring for you.

 

[TomJ]

I just received a call from a supervisor at Sig. They've made changes to their recoil springs, as the previous (or current, depending on how you look at it) springs worked well with +P ammunition but caused light primer strikes in standard pressure ammunition. OP, I'd send it in to Sig, and they'll install the upgraded recoil spring.

 

[jjones45]

I have another thread going on in regards to this. I have 2 P365's and 2 P365XL's (a backup for each). All four have been back to Sig for light primer strikes, with the most recent on it's way back not, and I should have it Wednesday. The culprit for all were the recoil springs, which Sig replaced. Send it back to them, and at the very least I expect them to replace the recoil spring for you.

4 out of 4 exhibited the same problem? That’s an alarming failure rate and I wouldn’t trust any model handgun that all 4 I had needed service. That’s just me.

 

[Styx]

Yea, I stopped being interested in these once the initial problems came to light, and I'm routinely hearimg about more problems from separate unaffiliated individuals who actually own the gun... I get that some of them work well, but I'm not going to try my luck... To many other pistols on the market that already have the kinks worked out, and Springfield has had a better track record when it comes new releases. They and other companies have handled and squashed design problems way better than Sig has as well.

The offerings on the budget market aren't having this many if any issues being reported by random owners.

 

[Riomouse911]

If someone could answer this I’ll appreciate iit; how does a recoil spring issue cause light primer strikes? Is the slide-barrel not going fully into battery and the bullet is driven forward along with the not-all-the-way-closed barrel rather than taking the full impact of the firing pin?

Just wonderin’...

Stay safe.,

 

[LaneP]

If someone could answer this I’ll appreciate iit; how does a recoil spring issue cause light primer strikes? Is the slide-barrel not going fully into battery and the bullet is driven forward along with the not-all-the-way-closed barrel rather than taking the full impact of the firing pin?

Just wonderin’...

Stay safe.,

I was thinking the same.

 

[Jeb Stuart]

Is the 365 really new? It was produced in 2017. It appears they are having difficulty with primer drag and recoil springs. It would seem they would have figured this out by now. And if they are indeed coming out with a NEW recoil spring then it would seem there is a problem. Yes it seems some folks have no problem but why others. Are they shooting different ammo? Are the problems with some ammo having harder primers? "Too light on the recoil spring and it may stop short, then the firing pin safety can drag on the FP and give you light strikes."

I have been taking up for Sig as just a a new model,but yet it seems each week we are hearing about a variety of issues. It seems the whole firing system is just not balancing out correctly. Maybe too easy to just have one gun become off center. Will the NEW recoil spring be the final answer to having issues corrected and the gun can now be bought with full confidence? Perhaps if Higher round count is a main objective, then just wait another year, or see how well he Hellcat performs. So far, I have not heard of any issues with that gun, but we will see.

 

[TomJ]

If someone could answer this I’ll appreciate iit; how does a recoil spring issue cause light primer strikes? Is the slide-barrel not going fully into battery and the bullet is driven forward along with the not-all-the-way-closed barrel rather than taking the full impact of the firing pin?

Just wonderin’...

Stay safe.,

With the current recoil spring, the gun is just slightly out of battery, so the striker isn’t hitting the primer deeply enough. Per Sig it happens primarily, but not exclusively with standard pressure 115 grain ammo. If you’re using +P or 124 or 147 grain ammo you may not have an issue.

 

[Jeb Stuart]

I have two P365's and one has well over 7000 trouble free rounds and that gun was one of the first out of the run.
Light strikes other than the obvious cause being a broken striker spring, is 99% of the time related to oil in the Striker channel. Sig sends the guns in full of oil where it is not needed.
If this was my gun, I would jump on YouTube and remove the striker which is a one minute job. Make sure the springs are not broken and I run a q-tip down the channel and made sure it was dry. (never get oil in that area).
If that fails to correct the problem, call Sig. The last one I had a customer send in was returned in just over one week.



You must have forgotten all the recalls with the little Glocks and Springfields. I doubt Sig will miss your business.

Too much oil will break a broken striker spring in a 365? Then I wonder what a dirty striker channel will do.
Toms post above, concerning cheap 115 gr ammo does make more sense than anything I have heard. So are the issues with the ammo?

 

[TomJ]

Were any mods made to the gun? If yes, take it back to stock configuration, If no, make Sig fix it. QC on Federal ammo shouldn't be an issue on any quality handgun.

My guns are all stock.

 

[Jeb Stuart]

I remember when the Ruger LC9S first came out. They had a huge problem with the recoil spring and guide rod. Then it was not very long before they redesigned it to a captive recoil spring and Gallaway came out with one that corrected the problem as well. I wonder what the new spring will be like and the weight difference between the two.

 

[TomJ]

Too much oil will break a broken striker spring in a 365? Then I wonder what a dirty striker channel will do.
Toms post above, concerning cheap 115 gr ammo does make more sense than anything I have heard. So are the issues with the ammo?

I’ve had light primer strikes with Tullammo, which I understand is cheaper but also PMC and HST’s.

 

[340PD]

Thinking more about this relatively new issue I am wondering if it is not an unfortunate combination of things.
Sig ships their guns very wet. It took me a long time to clean both of my new P365's before shooting them. As someone stated above a gun not going into full battery can easily cause a light primer strike. I doubt recoil springs are the culprit as there are over 600,000 of thes guns sold and problems of this sort are few and far between. I do know neither of my two P365's are ammo sensitive and I shoot a variety of handloads all from mixed cases. That said, I never shoot factory steel or aluminium cased ammo as I have seen at too many problems from our customers who run this stuff through their guns.
Best advice I could give,
1. Completely clean and lube your new gun including the striker channel before you take it to the range for the first time. No big deal as this can be done with a spran can of non-chlorinated brake cleaner from Walmart. (wear glasses)
2. Start with good quality ammo preferably 124 or 147 gr. for the first few boxes.
3. Document any issues then call Sig and give them the steps you have already taken and let them tell you how to proceed. They will make it right and very promptly. If required they will e-mail you a pre-paid shipping label and when any needed repairs are completed you will be notified and it will be shipped directly back to you with only a signature required. Usually in less than ten days.

 

[TomJ]

Thinking more about this relatively new issue I am wondering if it is not an unfortunate combination of things.
Sig ships their guns very wet. It took me a long time to clean both of my new P365's before shooting them. As someone stated above a gun not going into full battery can easily cause a light primer strike. I doubt recoil springs are the culprit as there are over 600,000 of thes guns sold and problems of this sort are few and far between. I do know neither of my two P365's are ammo sensitive and I shoot a variety of handloads all from mixed cases. That said, I never shoot factory steel or aluminium cased ammo as I have seen at too many problems from our customers who run this stuff through their guns.
Best advice I could give,
1. Completely clean and lube your new gun including the striker channel before you take it to the range for the first time. No big deal as this can be done with a spran can of non-chlorinated brake cleaner from Walmart. (wear glasses)
2. Start with good quality ammo preferably 124 or 147 gr. for the first few boxes.
3. Document any issues then call Sig and give them the steps you have already taken and let them tell you how to proceed. They will make it right and very promptly. If required they will e-mail you a pre-paid shipping label and when any needed repairs are completed you will be notified and it will be shipped directly back to you with only a signature required. Usually in less than ten days.

I'm not sure this is a new issue for P365's, as I have 2 that experienced this. I did clean the striker channels and the problem continued. My first gun was an earlier build, and Sig replaced the following:
~ striker
~ striker housing
~ striker spring
~ recoil spring assembly
~ front sight
~ magazines

They replaced the recoil spring only on my second P365, a later build and both of my XL's. Problems with the recoil spring is not my assumption, but what I was told by their customer service. I agree with you that they repaired and returned the guns quickly. It's possible that all problems have been corrected, and I'm hoping that's the case as I really want to keep these guns. Given the number of issues they've had it's also possible that there's another problem that will occur. Until I'm sure I'm carrying my Glock 26.

 

[Jeb Stuart]

I will give you points for one thing Tom, you sure have some patience.

 

[TomJ]

I will give you points for one thing Tom, you sure have some patience.

Only out of necessity. I need to pocket carry due to back and neck issues and live in the Chicago area, where crimes committed by multiple attackers are not uncommon, so capacity matters to me. When wearing pants with deeper pockets, like I am now, I've switched to a Glock 26 I picked up last week. When I need something smaller, that's where options are more limited and is why I've stayed with the P365. The Hellcat has my interest, and I've been debating giving it a try although I'm not sure I want to be a beta tester again.