News channels calling them "gun toting Democrats"?!?!?!?!

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I was watching CNN today, and I forget the name, but he was on sometime before Lou Dobbs, and he said something to the effect that a lot of, and this is a quote, "gun toting Democrats" were just elected to office.

Now add to the fact that even Fox made note yesterday that some of the new Dems are "pro-gun".

I don't watch MSNBC, but I would assume if Fox AND CNN are saying this, then they would too.

Whats going on here? Are any of these guys really "pro-gun" (whatever that means), or are they just pro-hunting with single shot rifles that can't shoot more than 100 yards?

I mean even Fox seems to be falling hook, line, and sinker for this. I have seen a few people on Fox spout anti gun stuff, but I have also seen a few less than well known people on there seem to get a bit agitated when one of their co-hosts in the morning made a almost ignorant anti gun comment...which struck me as odd cause I took him for a limp wrist...

But back to the point...whatever the Dems have done, it seems to have worked. Now when they want to pass a new gun control law, they will almost have "street creds" if you know what I mean. Imagine it...all the news stations (including Fox), "well he is pro gun so if a pro gun guy says it needs to be banned it really must need to be banned."

Your thoughts?
 
These Dems dont care about guns (same with the repub's), they just dont want to appear as "radical San-Fran libs" to voters.
If they could get more votes by being anti, they would.
"well he is pro gun so if a pro gun guy says it needs to be banned it really must need to be banned."
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Thats a probability. This way guns can be further restricted, and inner city youth will finally be safe from each other.
 
what you'll probably see is hard line definitions of what 'common sense' gun laws will be. All of these pro gun dems will enforce the RKBA, with narrowly tailored restrictions....like total licensing and registration OR allowing only certain weapons for self defense.
 
Thats a probability. This way guns can be further restricted, and inner city youth will finally be safe from each other.
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Just like prisons. errrr....wait.... There are no guns there, but if someone wants to kill someone they will find a way. :evil: I guess its not the guns huh?
 
a lot of, and this is a quote, "gun toting Democrats" were just elected to office.
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Like who? I keep seeing this lately and have concluded that it is the latest disinformation myth. The voting results, certainly for Congress correlated with GOA ratings, do not support any such notion. There are no new pro-gunner Democrats in Congress except perhaps Tester, the first and only pro-gun Senator among Democrats, trading an A rating based on actual votes by Burns for a B rating based upon a questionnaire and a State level record. I'll take it under the circumstances, but how much chance does a freshman Senator have in being quite different than the rest of the caucus? Who maintains complete integrity after going to Washington?
 
The guy who said it has a fairly deep voice and kind of talks and pauses and talks and accents certain words and talks and pauses. Much like the classic anchor voice. I think its Jack Cafferty, but I can't be sure without hearing his voice. Anyways the guy has come off as a little or more left than right in the past.
 
Even the NRA web site says that a lot of the Democrats are (ostensibly at least) pro-gun. I totally agree that (just like any issue for any candidate) this is more about getting elected than personal beliefs, and subject to change without notice, especially if there's some sensational news story involving gun violence.

In the state where I live, guns are very popular, and most people from all political persuasions seem to own them.
 
The guy who said it has a fairly deep voice and kind of talks and pauses and talks and accents certain words and talks and pauses.
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Does he also say "uh-huh" a lot and wear sequined jumpsuits?
 
If it wasn't for the Democrats in the state legislature from Southern Illinois, Illinois would be Sarah Brady's dream state. California would not even compare.

We succeeded in beating the Democrats at the polls over the gun issue in a couple election cycles. Even if it's their personal dream to confiscate every firearm in private hands in this country, they are smarter then to bring it up now. The time isn't right,

What we need to do is keep the pressure on. They need to be constantly reminded that their hold on power is directly related to respect for the Second Amendment. As long as they believe in their heart of hearts that we will send them packing if they cross us, they will toe the line. Few of them want gun control so badly they are willing to give up the reins of power to get it.

Jeff
 
I read forums other than THR, many of which have a base which is largely Democrat-leaning. From what's been posted on these other forums, I can tell you that the Bush/Republican anti-liberty actions have scared the beejebus out of a lot of former anti-gunners, and made them appreciate what the second amendment is really for.

Strangely, the current group of Republicans may have done more for gun rights than any other in our history, without trying to.

When you're worreid about being disappeared and tortured, the second amendment starts to seem like a pretty good idea after all.
 
I can tell you that the Bush/Republican anti-liberty actions have scared the beejebus out of a lot of former anti-gunners, and made them appreciate what the second amendment is really for.
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yeah, I was reading the same thing until Nov. 8th. Now they are singing a different tune. :mad:
 
As I have said before, this is really going to depend on how feisty these new Dems are. The test will be when the liberals want a new permanent AWB. I can tell you right now, it would almost certainly be non-permanent. The question is how far would this go?
 
The new crop just might tell the liberal leadership to pound sand. I doubt we will see any kind of gun control passed until after 2008. Bills will be introduced just like always but I don't see them making it out of committee.
 
Bills will be introduced just like always but I don't see them making it out of committee.
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You must have missed the 20 threads where we discussed the Democratic members of the House and Senate Judiciary Committees. One pro-gun member on the House committee, remainder of the House committee is F and F- with the majority having co-sponsored McCarthy's stricter AWB in 2005. Every single member of the Senate committee except for Leahy voted to ban all centerfire rifle ammo in 2004.

The only thing that will stop a gun control bill from making it out of those committees will be if it is obvious the bill is going to lose on the votes. Otherwise it will sail through with no problem.
 
"Pro gun" doesn't necessarily mean that they're RKBA absolutists by any stretch.Someone can say with some degree of honesty and conviction that they are pro-gun and hunt,target,trap etc shoot but on the other hand,see no "need" for what have become called assault rifles and would be fine with another ban.They get to define pro-gun to whatever margins they wish and say that the right to keep and bear arms hasn't been infringed as plenty og guns are available,just that _those_ arms aren't ones anyone should be able to bear.
 
Senator Mark Pryor of Arkansas is a classic example of a "gun-totin'" Dem.

He aired campaign commercials back in 2004 showing himself wearing camo and toting a shotgun.

Once elected, he voted FOR the renewal of the AWB and AGAINST law suit pre-emption.

He's a classic "gun-totin" Dem alright.

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