Dave McCracken
Moderator In Memoriam
The old MEC 600 Jr here is still perking along. It's a great piece of machinery. I did replace the sizing ring, pre crimp and crimp, but less than $20 worth of parts seems to constitute a rebuild.
The 600 is user friendly, inexpensive, versatile but slow. After thousands of rounds, it takes 8 minutes or so to knock out a box. With spare time in short supply here, it behooved me to get a faster setup. Based on my satisfaction with MEC and their service, I looked for a MEC Grabber or 9000.
I didn't want a 650. That model does not resize the shell base. With six 12 gauges here, I wanted to make sure ammo will chamber and fire in all of them.
So, when an ad on the Bulletin Board at PGC listed a used Grabber, I called up the owner. Shortly thereafter, I had a rather used Grabber at what I thought was a good price. I figured I'd set it up, follow the directions in the manual, and pump out shells by the bucket.
Silly me....
Setup wasn't complicated. I mounted the MEC to a hunk of 2X10" with a cheap baking pan between to catch spills. The whole thing was C clamped to my Sears Workmate as the 600 had been.
Following the directions in the manual exactly, I turned out a box or two. Then the dratted thing locked up tight. A Zen Moment.
After a few calls to MEC in Wisconsin, I boxed it up and shipped it to them for a fix and refurb, if needed.
My bargain wasn't looking so good when it came back with a bill for $105. That was more than I had paid for the press.
And it still didn't work.
MEC wrote they had reset the wad guide and replaced what needed to be done.
Even those that love me admit I can be stubborn. I putzed with it for a couple months while putting the 600 through its paces, slowly but flawlessly.
Eventually, I stopped and asked for directions. A PGC employee with wide knowledge of progressives gave me the secret. Anti sieze lube on the sizer collet is mandatory.
Anti size lube was in the maintenance kit I bought from MEC, along with some specialized wrenches and a dental pick. A can of air completed my toolkit.
So, I got it running, maybe 3K rounds ago. A box takes 4-5 minutes to load. I'm sure that will drop as I get into it.
A couple things on progressives.....
The baking pan is a very good idea.
So are dental picks and canned air.
Anti sieze compound is nasty stuff and gets everywhere.
The primer drop HAS to be closely monitored. And, for the auto prime to work, there has to be at least 20 primers in the tray. Keeping a few loose primers handy is a good idea.
Once the shell carrier has all six holes filled, a shell is produced with every pull of the handle. The 600 takes six pulls to make one shell.
I have a small barrel that holds over 100 shells. Once it's full, then I box them. I clean off the semi finished rounds in the 600, which is nearby, when I'm through.
While I have my powder bottle baffled to keep the drops uniform, I keep it at least half full for consistency's sake. Each session I weigh the first charge of powder, the 10th and the last.
The probs I've had include the primer feed, the wad pressure and primer seating depth. With everything adjustable, things come loose.
A progressive will teach you patience. It'll also make ammo faster than you can shoot it up.
That's what it's for...
The 600 is user friendly, inexpensive, versatile but slow. After thousands of rounds, it takes 8 minutes or so to knock out a box. With spare time in short supply here, it behooved me to get a faster setup. Based on my satisfaction with MEC and their service, I looked for a MEC Grabber or 9000.
I didn't want a 650. That model does not resize the shell base. With six 12 gauges here, I wanted to make sure ammo will chamber and fire in all of them.
So, when an ad on the Bulletin Board at PGC listed a used Grabber, I called up the owner. Shortly thereafter, I had a rather used Grabber at what I thought was a good price. I figured I'd set it up, follow the directions in the manual, and pump out shells by the bucket.
Silly me....
Setup wasn't complicated. I mounted the MEC to a hunk of 2X10" with a cheap baking pan between to catch spills. The whole thing was C clamped to my Sears Workmate as the 600 had been.
Following the directions in the manual exactly, I turned out a box or two. Then the dratted thing locked up tight. A Zen Moment.
After a few calls to MEC in Wisconsin, I boxed it up and shipped it to them for a fix and refurb, if needed.
My bargain wasn't looking so good when it came back with a bill for $105. That was more than I had paid for the press.
And it still didn't work.
MEC wrote they had reset the wad guide and replaced what needed to be done.
Even those that love me admit I can be stubborn. I putzed with it for a couple months while putting the 600 through its paces, slowly but flawlessly.
Eventually, I stopped and asked for directions. A PGC employee with wide knowledge of progressives gave me the secret. Anti sieze lube on the sizer collet is mandatory.
Anti size lube was in the maintenance kit I bought from MEC, along with some specialized wrenches and a dental pick. A can of air completed my toolkit.
So, I got it running, maybe 3K rounds ago. A box takes 4-5 minutes to load. I'm sure that will drop as I get into it.
A couple things on progressives.....
The baking pan is a very good idea.
So are dental picks and canned air.
Anti sieze compound is nasty stuff and gets everywhere.
The primer drop HAS to be closely monitored. And, for the auto prime to work, there has to be at least 20 primers in the tray. Keeping a few loose primers handy is a good idea.
Once the shell carrier has all six holes filled, a shell is produced with every pull of the handle. The 600 takes six pulls to make one shell.
I have a small barrel that holds over 100 shells. Once it's full, then I box them. I clean off the semi finished rounds in the 600, which is nearby, when I'm through.
While I have my powder bottle baffled to keep the drops uniform, I keep it at least half full for consistency's sake. Each session I weigh the first charge of powder, the 10th and the last.
The probs I've had include the primer feed, the wad pressure and primer seating depth. With everything adjustable, things come loose.
A progressive will teach you patience. It'll also make ammo faster than you can shoot it up.
That's what it's for...