NRA endorsed Republican killing Campus/Open Carry in FL. Allies with grabbers

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I also did a record's request to the Senate and Secretary of the State.

Dear Mr. Miami_JBT:

The Office of the Senate Secretary received your public records request dated March 10, 2017, for the following: ·

In late June to early July of 2016, a special session was attempted to be called in regards to the Pulse Nightclub Terror Attack and the special session would have tackled gun control and the FBI Terror Watch List and banning Floridians from being able to purchase guns if they are on the list. I am requesting a copy of any letters and votes Senator Flores sent to the Secretary of State Ken Detzner and Senate President Andy Gardiner or any other people regarding this special session.

A response to this request will be given in a reasonable amount of time. Should this request result in an extensive use of Senate information technology resources, clerical or supervisory assistance, an extensive use fee estimate will be provided for approval prior to processing the request.

The Senate provides this response pursuant to Article 1, Section 24 of the Florida Constitution, section 11.0431, Florida Statutes, and Senate Rule 1.48. Under Article 1, Section 24(c) of the Florida Constitution, each house of the Legislature is exclusively authorized to adopt rules governing the enforcement of the maintenance, control and disposition of public records with respect to their own public records.


The Office of the Senate Secretary will be in contact should any additional information be needed. Otherwise, a notification will be sent once the records are ready for release.

Sincerely,

Tessa Wagoner
Public Records Coordinator
Florida Senate
(850) 487-5237
[email protected]


I want to see what she wrote to the Democrats when she voted yes for a special session for gun control.it was the day before she begged the NRA for an endorsement a
 
This past year I've been taking time off and hitting the State Capitol. Here's what's been going on.

On March 7, 2017 was the first day of the Legislative Session for Florida and with that two 2nd Amendment related bills were up for debate in the Senate Judiciary Committee. The same committee where Open Carry and Campus Carry were killed last year by then Republican Committee Chair Senator Miguel Diaz de la Portilla. As you know, there has been on ongoing issue this year in that same committee. This time with two Republican Senators.

Senator Anitere Flores, the Florida Senate’s President Pro Tempore. She’s the second most powerful Senator under the Senate President, Joe Negron. The other is Senator Rene Garcia.

The two bills up for debate were SB 616 and SB 646. SB 616 was about Guns and Court Houses. It would not have allowed concealed carry in the court, it simply would have allowed licensed permitted concealed carry holders to check in their gun with the police/sheriff stationed at the court. Nothing more and nothing less. SB 646 would have decriminalized accidental exposure of a concealed firearm. It would have made it a $25 dollar fine to the Clerk of the Court and a non arrestable offense.

Both bills were scheduled to be heard in the Senate Judiciary Committee at 4pm. Myself and a number of Florida 2nd Amendment Supporters spent all day at the Capitol meeting with Senators that are part of the Judiciary Committee.

At 1pm we met with Senator Flores’ Office. We presented the facts and explained why SB 646 needed to be passed, especially after the unjust ruling from the Florida Supreme Court in Norman v State. Then we met with Senator Mayfield’s Office at 2pm. Senator Mayfield’s Staff stated with no uncertain term that she supports SB 646 and she does not agree with the Court ruling in Norman v State. Mr. Norman lives in her district and she found it appalling to what happened to him.

At 3pm we met with Senator Garcia. With our group was a current FSU student that was raped on campus in 2014. She told Senator Garcia in person that she was raped on campus and then asked him if he would support Campus Carry. Senator Garcia flat out stated no that he will not support it. Senator was also asked if he’d support Open Carry and he said no.

At 3:30pm we then met with Sen. Steube to discuss SB 646 and of course the actual elephant in the room. SB 644 (Legitimate Open Carry) and SB 622 (Legitimate Open Carry). We asked Sen. Steube if Senate President Joe Negron will use his constitutional authority to places these bills directly for a floor vote in the Senate and he stated that it does not appear that Senate President Negron will not do such an act. We were unable to get word directly from Senate President Joe Negron. Also no word from the House on where their Pro Gun Bills are at the moment either.

We then attended the Committee Meeting at 4pm. The first 2nd Amendment bill to be heard was SB 616 (Courthouse gun check in). During the debate. Sen. Flores openly stated that she will only vote for this bill because it is very limited in scope and she does not support Campus Carry, Airport Carry, School Carry, or Open Carry. Senator Garcia then stated that he shares beliefs and supports Senator Flores’ statements and furthermore he then went on about mental health.

Senator Flores stated “I do not support guns on campus, I do not support having guns in airports and I do not support guns in school zones. I don’t support those things.”

Senator Garcia stated “I want to echo the sentiments Sen. Flores stated.”

I must say, Senator Debbie Mayfield stood strong in the opposition that is Senator Flores and her lackey Senator Garcia. Senator Mayfield said “I am one of those that believe it is a God given right for us to protect ourselves and to carry a gun.”

As of this point, Campus Carry and Open Carry is dead in Florida unless Senate President Joe Negron pulls these bills out of committee and move them directly to a floor vote. Senator Greg Steube is fighting an uphill battle this year. Sadly, for a State under Republican control since 1996, it appears that once again Republicans are killing Pro Gun Legislation by smothering it in the cradle via committee and worse it is being done by Senate President Joe Negron’s top lieutenant and the second most powerful person, Senator Anitere Flores.

Senator Flores was given a 100% A+ rating by the NRA in 2015 and the NRA endorsed her for her bid to run for Florida Senate in 2010.


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It gets worse.... on July 5, 2016 she voted yes for a Special Session that would tackle gun control. The next day she sent a letter to the NRA requesting an endorsement.

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So I went to the Capitol on March 9 to confront her about the two faced game she's playing.

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They made me so while I sat in her office I wrote this real quick.

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In the end that day she never saw me. Instead it was Demi Busatta, she's the Senior Legislative Aid to Senator Flores. I met with her on Tuesday when I was last there. I gave her the quick letter I wrote and put on it my name, address, phone, and email. I told her under no uncertain terms that I want an answer as to why Sen. Flores switched sides. I told her the truth..... that as a Miami Resident I lived in her district and I felt as if a knife was plunged into my back. As a Cuban I feel doubly betrayed. I went over Flores' voting history and how she voted for every pro gun bill except for two that she was absent for. I told her that I need an answer for why the change and that no matter what. I will go there for an answer.

So yesterday I wrote this up and will mail it and hand deliver it to her.

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Pay attention folks. This what we need to do. Get up off the couch and out from behind the keyboard and make your presence known.
 
Have you sent this information to the NRA? I assume that Florida has a state-level, gun-rights organization. Send them a copy too.

By the way, your information is good but you need to cut WAY down on the volume that's actually being sent to anyone official. At the VERY least, you need to get all the critical information on one main page with referenced addenda appended.
 
Have you sent this information to the NRA? I assume that Florida has a state-level, gun-rights organization. Send them a copy too.

By the way, your information is good but you need to cut WAY down on the volume that's actually being sent to anyone official. At the VERY least, you need to get all the critical information on one main page with referenced addenda appended.

I see Marion Hammer of the NRA in person along with Eric Friday of FL Carry. I've sent my info to them. As with the stuff...

I see Anitere Flores in person too. I live fifteen minutes from the Capitol. I've done the half paragraph thing with her too
 
If you are going to write to a State Senator (as with any Govt. Official), please take the time to spell correctly and use proper grammar to prevent the furthering of their beliefs that we are the ignorami they already deem us to be.

Your statement " So did you lie to me and my fellow citizens then or are you lying to me know?" (sic) should read "So did you lie to me and my fellow citizens then, or are you lying to us now?"

And yes, i am being a Grammar Nazi, because in writing such letters is when one should use proper grammar and spelling.

So is Greg Stube being duped by her, or is he in on it also? I sure hope not.
 
Hand written including mis spelts are extra very fine. Write it in crayon if neckessar...nesecarr...if you have to.
OK maybe a wee bit over dramatic, but I will NEVER discourage the numero uno method for really really getting a Rep's attention...the HAND WRITTEN LETTER.
Oh also FYI if you get 100, 200, 300 or more handwritten letters including on a well folded paper towel if you have to, mail them at staggered but close intervals,congratualtions, you probably just won your argument
 
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Miami,

Keep on keeping on. They need to know that Marion is not alone. Speaking of Marion tell her "Bob the Lose Cannon from Gainesville" former member of her BoD says "Howdy."

I wonder how this State Senator would feel about campus carry if she were being assaulted on a Florida Campus? Maybe you might ask her that.

The biggest issue with no carry on campus is that anyone traveling to campus or away from it must be at some loss of personal defense capabilities. I have to wonder what makes a 21 plus year old adult that the state has admitted may carry concealed about the state suddenly more likely to misuse a gun when on campus. Here in Gainesville the University of Florida and SanteFe College are big employers. Still even though the percentage of CWL holders is no different among those employees they must "give up the gun" just to go to work.

Can you imagine the up roar if the state decided we must leave our religion at home when we go to work? Can you imagine the up roar if folks on campus were told who they could associate with? Can you imagine the uproar if freedom of the press were restricted on every campus?

Second Amendment rights are every bit as much a civil right as the other individual rights expressed in the Bill of Rights and legislators must be reminded of this from time to time.

Has anyone pointed out that other states that DO allow on campus carry have not experienced an increase in firearms abuse?

Anyone reminded them of the dire predictions about when Marion did all that work to get a state wide CWL that failed to come true?

Have at 'em!
 
No one with any common sense should support a politician because the NRA supports them or based on what grade they get. I respect the NRA and I am a member. But I am not going to blindly vote for someone because they got a grade or endorsement. I do my own research first.
 
The latest from Anitere Flores....

"Anything that goes beyond that (checking firearms at the courthouse door) I will not allow in the Senate. My word and my commitment is something that I hold to be very sacred.” – tallahassee.com

Her word is something important? She voted in favor of gun control and the next day told the NRA that government has no right to regulate and infringe on gun rights!
 
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She is like all politicians. Which ever route will enhance her chances for re-election is the path she will take. If it means talking out of both sides of her mouth at the same time, then she will try that. I hold politicians like this in even lower esteem than I do the main stream media, somewhere in the negative percentage region. She sounds like a lost cause, just remember tjis and primary her with someone who will pledge to uphold the constitution of the US and the state of Florida.

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its obvious to me money is buying politics like usual. i expect Senator Joe wont do anything to stop this. hope im wrong. sure hope Marion can get enough nra, florida carry etc florida members to email, call, etc Senator Joe and put a stop to this. im hoping but very skeptical.

nice work op by the way being engaged and trying to make a difference.
 
I'll be curious what the NRA says about this. My research has led me to the conclusion that they're more interested in pushing conservative candidates over more liberal ones regardless of their stand on guns. I've seen this again and again with their "report cards". But maybe they'll clarify their position.
 
DoubleMag wrote:
...really getting a Rep's attention...the HAND WRITTEN LETTER.

I concur.

I once worked on a project with a Congressional Staffer. He told me original correspondence (as opposed to form letters) got the attention of the staff. The staffers know what the form letters say, so they just get a tick mark in a For/Against tally. Original correspondence was taken more seriously because it represented an investment in the voter's time, effort and expense (postage); the belief being that someone who would write a letter is motivated enough to do other things like contribute to a campaign, work for a campaign, and show up to vote.

And entropy is correct, the more professional in tone and composition the letter, the more effective it is going to be. Right or wrong, a more professional tone and good grammar are associated with wealth and a wealthy potential campaign donor is going to get more attention than someone who seems poor.
 
Thanks....

NRA ain't doing much.... so I will
I live a long way from Florida, but today I did receive a notice from the NRA ILA that Senator Flores is the reason that this bill is blocked and they are urging her constituents to notify her and the senate leader of their displeasure with that fact. So, the NRA is doing "something".
 
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