NRA Slams Gun Confiscations

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Taurus66 - my point was that people like to say that the NRA will never fight gun control because they profit from it; but that is obviously not true.

Ah, that may be true about others. I'm not saying that the NRA will never fight gun control because they profit from it. I'm simply saying the NRA is not always doing enough. Responsible gun owners are not getting enough [pun]"bang for their buck".[/pun]
 
Thank you for providing me with another opportunity to post my little link showing the effectiveness of the NRA.

The NRA was instrumental last year in keeping the AWB from being renewed when Dems slipped it into the first bill that would provide lawsuit protection for the firearms industry.

http://www.nramemberscouncils.com/siliconvalley/1805Results.html

Note in particular this quote from Feinstein (speaking of the NRA):
"I'm a bit numb ... They had the power to turn around at least 60 votes in the Senate. That's amazing to me."

- Senator Feinstein as quoted in the NY Times 3/3/04
 
"JohnBT, I would of never expected this from you."

Then don't impune the character of a fine American. He obviously didn't take the NRA job because he needed the money. Heck, I don't even know if he took a salary at all.

John

P.S. -

1. Lacking education or knowledge.
2. Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge: an ignorant mistake.
3. Unaware or uninformed.
 
Couple of little things.

First on this CNN lawsuit. If you'll go read the details you will find that there was NOT a judgment in CNN's favor. The lawsuit never saw a courtroom.

The folks telling reporters they could not come along realized their big mistake and shut the heck up almost immediately, pretty much the same as the folks that decided to confiscate firearms realized their mistake about the same time they made it.

Second, it's tough for NRA or GOA to file lawsuits without an actual victim.

In the CNN case, they were the victim of 1A abuses, so they had grounds.

NRA and GOA both are actively looking for these victims, THEN there can
be suits.

You can't just walk into a courthouse and file injunctions over something
you saw on TV........


Last, send an extra donation this month to GOA and NRAILA. This fight will get expensive. Our enemies have shown what they are capable of, and they also showed they fear us by changing their minds so quick.

It's a good time to fight this.
 
JohnBT, I would of never expected this from you. It was a guess, then I finished it with, "Eh, just a thought." I did this so viewers would know that I knew I could be way off. The last sentence was merely cynical humor. The right emoticon for this did not exist.

A little less sugar in your coffee should make things better. You might want to think about switching to decaf as well.

Everyone has the right to an opinion. Charlton Heston never had anything to do with the NRA anyway. It was an actor pretending to be Charlton Heston so he could get the free meals at the elaborate banquets all of those people attend. Remember: you heard it here first.
 
Have you ever heard of the First Amendment??

haha, have you ever read the First Amendment? The 1st doesn't protect your right to post on Oleg's board anymore than it guarantees you the right to write for the NY Post. Be grateful Oleg lets us post here at all. Also, don't get indignant when you say something controversial without a disclaimer and more than 1 person takes it seriously. Adding an "eh" isn't really a good qualifier for humor when it involves defaming a very important figure for many people.

The NRA dropped the ball on more than 1 occasion but I feel that they and the NRA-ILA have been doing a better job as of late. I pick and choose what I send in contributions for. If you can afford it, why not send in contributions to the GOA and the NRA? If you feel the GOA gets more done, then help support them the most but remember that the NRA gets the mainstream attention. Congress is in "fear" of the NRA according to the media so let's play it.

To that end, we should want the NRA to take a "mainstream" position, yet still very pro-gun, that will draw the extremists' attention. They shouldn't come across as a knee-jerk reactionary group as some of the other gun-rights groups do because then they will bemore easily dismissed. The NRA should provide a stalwart reasonable stance that reaches as many Americans as possible and give the appearance of a very honest organization. Then let the GOA and the other more agile groups do the real dirty work unencumbered. Let them push and lobby like Soros' little "evil" minions do. Just my thoughts on how to more effectively use the NRA and other gun groups together.
 
I don't want to spoil it for others. That would be totally unfair. I'm going to retract my statements so the thread can stay opened.
 
"Charlton Heston never had anything to do with the NRA anyway."

And he really wasn't the President of the Screen Actors Guild from '65 to '71 either. I bet they used a stand-in or something so he wouldn't have to do anything. He was just an actor after all. :rolleyes: John

From SAG site:

"Heston first joined the Board of Directors as a replacement for James Whitmore in January, 1960-just before the commencement of the Guild's third strike. The 1960 strike resulted in the creation of the Guild's Pension & Welfare Plan, but disappointed many as it failed to win residuals for theatrical films sold to television dating back to 1948. Heston was elected to the board in November 1960, and elected 3rd Vice-President in 1961. From 1962 - 1965, he served 1-year terms as 2nd VP and in November 1965 was elected to his first of six 1-year terms as Guild President.

During the six years of his Presidency, Heston visited Vietnam with the USO, attended labor conventions, hosted meetings, and participated in contract negotiations. But perhaps his greatest challenge was Runaway Production, which had been a cyclical problem since the late 1940's, and even Runaway Commercials (filmed in foreign countries for American products for the American market). In April 1968, Heston flew to Washington to meet with a group of key film company executives, and California senators Tom Kuchel and George Murphy (former Screen Actors Guild president), to examine possible solutions for Runaway. Heston supported Senate Bill 393, which California Governor Ronald Reagan (yes, another former Guild president), signed into law in 1968. SB 393 eliminated a discriminatory tax on the value of movie industry "intangibles." As Heston described it, this tax on "... all the scripts, unfinished films, and completed negatives [production companies]
possess as of each March first is to smother the industry for at least three months out of every year." At the end of 1969, Heston testified before Congress in support of subscription or Pay-TV, which he believed would not only create more domestic production, but increase the quality of the programming, stating "...it will give the public the choice of better entertainment, culture and education in the home far beyond what is possible today with television supported solely by advertising." In 1970, the Guild made changes to its collective bargaining agreement, popularly dubbed the "Comeback Contract" to encourage more domestic and Hollywood production.

As he concluded his final term as president, he presented the Guild with a new gavel, handing it to incoming president, John Gavin. It reads: "For the Guild's President: To use with all the moderation you find possible, all the wisdom you possess, and all the justice you can discern. Chuck Heston, 1971.""
 
My perspective is:

I joined the NRA to add one more number to the population of the big group everybody sees and notices as the GUN lobby. (the magazine is nice too.)

I'm going to join GOA because they seem to be more active--and agressive.

Wait, we can join both, right? Seems like a decent way to spread around a few of my meager bucks.
 
My thank you letter to the ILA.

After reading Mr. LaPierre's response to the gun confiscations in New Orleans, I would just like to say thank you for your hard work and effort on this issue. I asked you to take my concerns into consideration and you did. I was satisfied with the response and I hope those were not hollow words, but a strong commitment to follow up and seek legal action if a citizen's rights were violated. Again, the NRA takes a lot of flak from some of our "allies", but I think the response was timely and accurate. Thank you and keep up the good work.
 
" he might have been joking about the whole stand-in doing it for the free meals thing..."

I didn't see the smiley. Oh, wait a minute, there wasn't one. :confused:

John
 
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