NY State: Limit “Assault Weapon” Ammo Sales to 20 Rounds Every 4 Months

[Midwest]

NY Bill A09340: Limit “Assault Weapon” Ammo Sales to 20 Rounds Every 4 Months


The law proposed by New York State Assemblymember Jo Anne Simon of Brooklyn would restrict "assault weapons" ammo to just 20 rounds every four months. Violate the law and it will be punishable by a Class E Felony.

(No that is not a misprint).

She wanted to originally propose restricting many more types of ammo. But there was a backlash to that proposal so she feels like this is a 'compromise'.

Not to be dramatic, but this ranks up as one of the worst gun control proposals of all time.


http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...weapon-ammo-sales-to-20-rounds-over-3-months/



"PROVIDED, HOWEVER, THE SALE OF AMMUNITION FOR ASSAULT WEAPONS, AS DEFINED BY SUBDIVISION TWENTY-TWO OF SECTION 265.00 OF THIS TITLE, SHALL BE LIMITED TO TWO TIMES THE CAPACITY OF AN AUTHORIZED WEAPON OVER A ONE HUNDRED TWENTY DAY PERIOD.

FOR PURPOSES OF THIS SUBDIVISION, “AUTHORIZED WEAPON” SHALL MEAN A WEAPON REGISTERED IN ACCORDANCE WITH SUBDIVISION SIXTEEN-A OF SECTION 400.00 OF THIS CHAPTER. NOTWITHSTANDING ANY LAW, RULE OR REGULATION TO THE CONTRARY, THE VIOLATION OF THIS SUBDIVISION SHALL CONSTITUTE A CLASS E FELONY."
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[armoredman]

Time to order that Dillon equipment and supplies. In fact, this is the one time that device that converts empty 22lr brass into .224 bullets might be a really good idea.
As for the bill, typical leftist, "can't restrict the cars, lets limit the amount of gasoline you can buy at a time, that will stop drunk drivers!"

 

[MagnumDweeb]

Is death by rifle ammo a real issue in the state of NY? I mean, are more than ten people a year killed by rifle caliber firearms? Not that that is justification, but it would make a little sense. Granted, about as much sense as a Buddhist asking to be reincarnated as a Dung Beatle.

 

[armoredman]

Fact: In 1994, before the Federal “assault weapons ban,” you were eleven (11) times more likely to be beaten to death than to be killed by an “assault weapon.” *

Fact: In the first 17 years since the ban was lifted, murders declined 43%, violent crime 43%, rapes 27% and robberies 49%.**

Fact: “Since police started keeping statistics, we now know that ‘assault weapons’ are/were used in an underwhelming 0.026 of 1% of crimes in New Jersey. This means that my officers are
more likely to confront an escaped tiger from the local zoo than to confront an assault rifle in the hands of a drug-crazed killer on the streets.”***

Fact: State assault weapons bans “did not significantly affect murder rates” in a study covering 1980-2009.****


* Based on death rates reported by CDC and FBI Uniform Crime Statistics and estimating from state-level reporting on the percent of crimes involving types of firearms.

**FBI Uniform Crime Statistics, Uniform Crime Reporting Statistics - UCR Data Online, 1995-2012.

***Deputy Chief of Police Joseph Constance, Trenton, NJ, testimony - Senate Judiciary Committee in Aug 1993.

****"An examination of the effects of concealed weapons laws and assault weapons bans on state-level murder rates", Applied Economics Letters, Vol 21, No. 4.

All the above from Gun Facts 7.0, found here - http://www.gunfacts.info/

 

[stchman]

I don't know if you could pay me enough to live in NYC. I guess you could, but it would be a LARGE sum of cash.

 

[v35]

"AUTHORIZED WEAPON” SHALL MEAN A WEAPON REGISTERED IN ACCORDANCE WITH SUBDIVISION SIXTEEN-A OF SECTION 400.00 OF THIS CHAPTER.

Let me get this straight. If you fail to register according to New York Penal Law § 400.00 16-a, you're only guilty of a class A misdemeanor, yet if you register your gun and then purchase a quantity of ammunition equal to approximately one round every six days for your legally registered firearm you'll be a felon under this proposal.

And they actually expected NY state residents to register their guns? As I recall approximately 0% of them did that.

Do these people have a brain? Strike that.

 

[toivo]

I don't know if you could pay me enough to live in NYC. I guess you could, but it would be a LARGE sum of cash.

Simon represents Brooklyn, but this legislation would affect the whole state. I honestly don't see this passing -- I think that virtually every single upstate rep would oppose it, including Democrats. Not to mention the fact that it is unenforceable.

I notice that a lot of the commenters mention NYS separating itself from NYC. Whenever this is mentioned, somebody always pops up with the fact that NYC pays more in taxes than it gets in services, so tax money essentially flows upstate.

The answer to that is that virtually all of NY City's water flows from upstate. Historically, "eminent domain" are fighting words around here:

http://untappedcities.com/2015/06/2...er-comes-from-drowned-towns-in-the-catskills/

We can do without their tax money better than they can do without our water.

Sorry for the thread hijack, but as an upstate New Yorker, these "cidiots" and their shenanigans are infuriating to me.

 

[Reloadron]

Anymore I am ashamed of my Brooklyn roots.

This is a fine example of what happens when people who know absolutely nothing about guns and ammunition try to introduce legislation to control such. She really is clueless and what scares me is she is proud to be stupid. Oh well, glad it is no longer home to me. I visit once a year for a beach party and sanitize the truck making sure no loose range ammunition or even brass is rolling around.

Ron

 

[old lady new shooter]

Meanwhile in Brooklyn people are getting stabbed in the back walking down the street in broad daylight. And on the subways slashings are already way into the 100's.

 

[pintler]

Reloading aside, am I correct that if you own an AR you can only buy 20 rounds every N months, but if you own an AR and a .223 bolt gun, you can buy .223 by the case 'for the bolt gun'?

I'm a little skeptical about how much crime that's going to reduce.

 

[dragon813gt]

If it passes it will mean more ammo sales right over the state line. Upstate is a very large area so it would be a couple hour drive if you are in the middle of it. But drive to PA or VT and buy all the ammo you want

This really points out the urban/rural divide. There needs to be a solution for this because it's at the heart of the firearm issues. You don't see many people in rural areas wanting to take your rights away. While plenty of people in urban areas try every second of every day to take your rights away.

 

[toivo]

Reloading aside, am I correct that if you own an AR you can only buy 20 rounds every N months, but if you own an AR and a .223 bolt gun, you can buy .223 by the case 'for the bolt gun'?

I'm a little skeptical about how much crime that's going to reduce.

Yup, that's right. The idiots that dream up this stuff think there's something called "assault weapon ammo" that only works in "assault weapons."

It gets even weirder. If they use the "assault weapon" registration data to determine how much ammo you can buy, somebody who registered a Mini-14 because it had a flash hider could cut off the flash hider, deregister the weapon, and then buy as much ammo as he wants. Because, y'know you can't kill anybody if your rifle doesn't have a flash hider ...

 

[230RN]

Reloadron remarked,

Anymore I am ashamed of my Brooklyn roots.

Ditto here. I was "reborn" in Colorado back in the early sixties. A lot of people not from NYC cannot understand the brainwashing that goes on there, and not just regarding firearms.

And I was not even aware of how bad it was until I got here and could breathe free air for a month or so.

That proposed law sucks.

Terry, 230RN

 

[peacebutready]

I'm not a politics person but reading this makes me glad I don't live in that state.

 

[Frank Ettin]

Okay, it's a bad bill, but it's not law. And ranting about it is a waste of time and energy.

What would not be a waste of time or energy would be a serious discussion of possibly effective ways to help defeat the bill. But it doesn't look like anyone has any ideas.