Ohioans call Gov Taft Now!!

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knucklehead

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Hi People from Ohio,
It is very important that you call the Gov office and tell
the Gov to sign HB12 into law.
The gov office is taking calls about HB12.
When you call, they let it ring for a long time then
someone finally answers.
As hard as it may be, Please be polite.
614-466-3555.
Let the phone keep ringing until it is answered.
Have your friends call.
Have your family call.
This is going to take everybody that is concerned to make it happen!
Keep your fingers crossed.
Thanks for helping.
 
Taft may veto concealed-carry gun law
Says bill must allow public access to permit-holder info

By William Hershey, Laura A. Bischoff
Friday, December 12, 2003

COLUMBUS -- Gov. Bob Taft said he will veto legislation giving law-abiding Ohioans the right to carry concealed handguns because the bill doesn't give the public and media adequate access to personal information about permit-holders.

"There needs to be access by the press and the public to records to make sure the sheriffs are doing their jobs, to make sure the right people get permits and the wrong people, the people with felony records, people with other kinds of problems don't get concealed carry permits," Taft said Thursday.

The threat cast a cloud over passage of the legislation after what Senate President Doug White, R-Manchester, said had been 20 years of work by concealed-carry supporters.

The Senate passed the bill 25-8 about 11:30 p.m. Wednesday before adjourning for the year. The House passed it 70-27 about 1 a.m. Thursday before wrapping up its session. The legislature returns in January for the second year of the legislative session.

Taft will have 10 days to veto the concealed-carry bill once it reaches his desk.

The legislation would give reporters access to concealed-carry records on a name-by-name basis. Taft said that wasn't adequate. He originally demanded that the bill make the names, birth dates and counties or residence of permit holders open to the public.

He agreed to a compromise that would give journalists -- but not the public -- access to databases of all permit holders kept by county sheriffs. Senate Republicans agreed. House Republicans didn't.

"If you look at the true intent of concealed carry, it is that criminals do not know who is carrying and so when you go out and do full disclosure you really are breaking the intent of the bill," said House Speaker Larry Householder, R-Glenford.

Householder said he can muster the 60 votes in the 99-member House needed to override a veto.

White has said he doesn't think he would be able to get the 20 votes needed to override a veto in the 33-member Senate.

"We act like it's this big taboo," Householder said of a veto override.

It appears that the concealed-carry bill will be his third non-budget veto.

In a related development, state Sen. Eric Fingerhut, D-Shaker Heights, appeared in Dayton with Mayor Rhine McLin and Sen. Tom Roberts, D-Trotwood, urging citizens to urge Taft to follow through with the veto.

Fingerhut was making a campaign swing in his race next year against U.S. Sen. George Voinovich, R-Ohio.

The bill would be a "serious threat to our police officers who are already under stress and strain," McLin said.

Also, the House approved legislation implementing recommendations from Taft's Commission on Teaching Success. It differs from the Senate version, so a conference committee may be appointed.

The House and Senate also gave final approval to legislation sponsored by Sen. Jeff Jacobson, R-Butler Twp., giving law enforcement increased authority to disperse riots. Taft is expected to sign it, spokesman Orest Holubec said.
 
What`s your point?
The Gov hasn`t vetoed Hb12 yet and is taking calls on the subject.
If you would put as much effort into making a call as you have
replying to my post, Things might turn out ok for CCW!
 
The bill would be a "serious threat to our police officers who are already under stress and strain," McLin said.
:confused:

If it's such a "serious threat" to LEO's, why do the FOP, OHP(Neutral) , and BSSA not oppose it? I think Dayton needs a new Mayor.
 
I think Molon is unwilling to compromise his rights. he thinks this bill is imperfect, and worse than nothing. That's what I think based on his other threads, not trying to speak for him.
 
Molon is a one of the good guys. I disagree with him on this issue "HB12". Call tafts office to let them know were you stand and call Bob Bennett office PH614-228-2481 and let hom know that we will hold ALL REPUBLICANS that vote aganist us accountable in the next election.
 
Governor Bob Taft
30th Floor
77 South High Street
Columbus, Ohio 43215-6117

Phone 614-466-3555 or 614-644-HELP
 
Well, if left with the choice of incrementally advancing gun rights forward, or allowing them to stall right where there are, I'm in favor of advancing them. Its not like the OSC is going to recant their decision, and we can always work to fix what's wrong with the current bill once it is enacted.

Lets see...plenty of time left in the game...get the easy first down by throwing a shovel pass to a wide open receiver, or make a Hail Mary jump-ball to one heavily covered guy in the end zone. Hmmm....which makes more sense? Hmmm...I know this will come to me eventually...hmmmm...

JMO. ;)

Mike
 
Coronach, you said a mouthful.

There are an awful lot of well-meaning RKBA supporters out there who would benefit from watching your game film ... ;)

I wish the honest, peace-loving people of the great state of Ohio luck in convincing their Governor that they deserve a chance to defend their families. And, to avoid being publicly identified and vilified for simply exercising their fundamental human right of self defense.

Regards from TX
 
I used to be an everything or nothing believer. As I got more invovled and learned more about the process those beliefs changed. Specifically, the concealed carry movement altered my thinking. As good CCW laws sweep the nation it's a huge step forward for the pro-gun movement and the beginning of the end for the Sarah Brady crowd. Each shall issue concealed carry law gives us another example of how putting guns in law abiding citizens hands helps everyone. Gun grabbers helped, they cried wolf one too many times with their repeated cries of "blood running in the steets, " and "Return the Wild West" statements. Discrediting themselves and their movement. Our reasonablness on the subject helped as well. The only downside is the state by state approach meant we had to overcome the same issues each time.


I fully support the current bill becoming law. Then we can change it for the better in the future.
 
I placed my call it took maybe... 5 whole seconds. They answered the phone before it rang on my end. It took me longer to type this.
 
I could see it now.

People know who the CCW permittees are, but somehow, the ones that get the info from the state database to commit crimes against the CCW permittees end up dying.

Later, the Ohio Legislature takes out the public access clause. :D
 
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