Oliver North to be the next NRA President

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Critics are already calling him a felon and saying he can't possess guns. Not true. His convictions were vacated on appeal, which means that in the eyes of the law, they never existed. You're not a felon until an appellate court says you are, or you choose not to appeal.

Maybe not the optimal choice to be the face of the NRA, however, in view of what he did. His escape from the clutches of the justice system was due to court errors unrelated to the issue of guilt.

I still have my "My President is Charlton Heston" hat somewhere.
 
Quite a few years ago I read his autobiography. Other than that I really haven't given him much thought. I am sure that we will be in capable hands. my only concern is that, when I do think of him, I don't think of him as a "no compromises" kind of person. However, I may be proven wrong.

In all, I do think that they could have done a lot worse.
 
I have mixed feelings about this.
I love North's show. But I'm not sure if he's the right guy to lead the NRA now. I can't see how he brings anything useful right now. But I can hope that he'll do a great job like he did with his show.

Personally I would have preferred someone like Colion Nior. A young, intelligent, well spoken black man would drive the crazy far left anti gun folks nuts. Someone to help show that w'e're not all "old white rednecks" and could help the NRA attract younger members as well as minorities.

That said, I'm hoping this works out well
 
Very Interesting. I may just become a member if he wins. I have never liked Wayne LaPierre.
 
Given the actual job of President of the NRA, I think Ollie is a good choice.

herrwalther said:
Very Interesting. I may just become a member if he wins........
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This is of course the land of the brave and the home of the free. So given that, we are free to belong to whatever organizations we want.

But the truth of the matter is the only thing standing between your right to own firearms and the liberals desire to divest you of said firearms is the imperfect organization commonly referred to as the NRA. Don't mean to offend.
 
thomas15 said:
Given the actual job of President of the NRA, I think Ollie is a good choice.



This is of course the land of the brave and the home of the free. So given that, we are free to belong to whatever organizations we want.

But the truth of the matter is the only thing standing between your right to own firearms and the liberals desire to divest you of said firearms is the imperfect organization commonly referred to as the NRA. Don't mean to offend.
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You mean had the NRA not donated and worked to elect the current president?

I still have nightmares about what would have happened with an anti gun president, Congress and Supreme Court. The thought alone should remind us that we came very close to or nation as we’ve known it being changed forever. And bad changes IMHO.
 
This would be stupid. Nothing against someone caught up in political scandal, who was primarily just the scapegoat, but when you are heading a political machine about gun rights you shouldn't be a convicted criminal that was primarily known for smuggling arms. Might as well have Victor Bout.

Politics is not fair, it is half about reputation and perception, and why negative ads and smear campaigns and destructive scandal plays as big or more of a role than what the person really stands for or how good of a character they have.

Do you think having a guy connected to the Iran Contra affair known for supplying arms to Iran with whom we have a poor relationship, as the face of your gun rights is going to help in keeping them?
Or do you think it will help connect gun owners and the desires of the NRA with weapons smuggling and third world mayhem?

I think you would have a hard time finding someone more helpful to the antis in thwarting the goals of the NRA. Is the NRA trying to suicide? You think Oliver North in power if the Democrats win the next presidential election and get more control of Congress is not going to play right into the hands of passing some really bad legislation?
I can see the ads already, complete with images of Iranian Muslim extremists holding AKs and in Technicals with images of the Ayatollah looking no different to most with short attention span in the west than Islamic State radicals or Al Qaeda.
And maybe toss in a few of the bad things the Contras did as well.
While he is calling for more gun rights and defeating the antis proposed bans.

What better way could you take the support of millions of US citizens and their money and make it do as little as possible?
 
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This would be stupid. Nothing against someone caught up in political scandal, who was primarily just the scapegoat, but when you are heading a political machine about gun rights you shouldn't be a convicted criminal that was primarily known for smuggling arms. Might as well have Victor Bout.

Politics is not fair, it is half about reputation and perception, and why negative ads and smear campaigns and destructive scandal plays as big or more of a role than what the person really stands for or how good of a character they have.

Do you think having a guy connected to the Iran Contra affair known for supplying arms to Iran with whom we have a poor relationship, as the face of your gun rights is going to help in keeping them?
Or do you think it will help connect gun owners and the desires of the NRA with weapons smuggling and third world mayhem?

I think you would have a hard time finding someone more helpful to the antis in thwarting the goals of the NRA. Is the NRA trying to suicide? You think Oliver North in power if the Democrats win the next presidential election and get more control of Congress is not going to play right into the hands of passing some really bad legislation?
I can see the ads already, complete with images of Iranian Muslim extremists holding AKs and in Technicals looking no different to most in the west than Islamic State radicals or Al Qaeda.
And maybe toss in a few of the bad things the Contras did as well.
While he is calling for more gun rights and defeating the antis proposed bans.
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See my comments above on why I don’t think North was a good choice and others were better

See stevegrahams’s comment, North isn’t a convicted Felon. Yes he was convicted but his conviction was overturned on appeal. Now you can say this is a technicality but it’s the way our system works. So while I agree with you in some of your points saying he’s a felon is wrong.

In fact, if memory serves me he was the first person in Fairfax County Va to be granted a conceal carry permit. I’m not sure if he was the first in the state but he got it not long after the laws were changed, so a court felt he was a solid enough citizen not to deny him a permit. And yes I know Virginia is a Shall Issue state but if the conviction was an issue it would have been so then not now.
 
Personally I would have preferred someone like Colion Nior. A young, intelligent, well spoken black man would drive the crazy far left anti gun folks nuts. Someone to help show that w'e're not all "old white rednecks" and could help the NRA attract younger members as well as minorities.
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I don't care what color or sex the person is as long as they are the best for the job, but I am soo sick and tired of this kind of "Identity politics." even when it's in reverse.....
 
It does not matter if he is a convicted felon, the head of the NRA is a politician. A politician for gun rights shouldn't be a guy infamous for providing guns to Islamic Radicals and Central American violent groups. Which became an infamous shady cloak and dagger political scandal. You also don't want the face of gun rights being known as a shady cloak and dagger political type.

I don't know if you could find a worse face for gun rights.
 
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I don't care what color or sex the person is as long as they are the best for the job, but I am soo sick and tired of this kind of "Identity politics." even when it's in reverse.....
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I knew someone would post something like your reply. And I struggled how to frame it in a way that made my point but didn’t go on a race tangent. I’m with you in not carrying about color, race, sex, orientation etc. but I think he’d be an excellent president, and at a time where we have the left playing identity politics and dividing up our country, I think someone like him would be great. And his race is a benefit in addition to his qualifications for the reasons I mentioned.

If I’m not mistaken he’s a lawyer. But I won’t kid that I don’t hold that against him
 
Hey, Hokie, sorry to get a little uptight about it... I just get sick of the left playing these games. He may be a great choice but to select him because he is a well spoken black guy is not the right way to go IMO. I don't want to play the same games as the left which does divide our country.. Again, I get your point but..... no... Again, sorry for the rant...
 
Zoogster said:
It does not matter if he is a convicted felon, the head of the NRA is a politician. A politician for gun rights shouldn't be a guy infamous for providing guns to Islamic Radicals and Central American violent groups.
I don't know if you could find a worse face for gun rights.
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Yes there are many worse possibilities. But
Bushpilot said:
Hey, Hokie, sorry to get a little uptight about it... I just get sick of the left playing these games. He may be a great choice but to select him because he is a well spoken black guy is not the right way to go IMO. I don't want to play the same games as the left which does divide our country.. Again, I get your point but..... no... Again, sorry for the rant...
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I’m with you

I guess we just see how North does and his impact.
Maybe we’ll be pleasantly surprised.

That said, I do think there is a lot of work to do.
 
GEM said:
Wayne runs the show. The president is for PR.
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Wayne was a neighbor of my parents before they moved. They didn’t know him well, but he was always pleasant. They said they’d see him and his then young son at the grocery store quite a bit. I guess they shopped on a similar schedule.
 
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