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That was just mean, I am only posting nowso nobody else sees that you were the last to post and thinks there is a new chapter. :neener:

Thanks for a great story - I just re-read it and it was even better the second time through. it upped the jonsing though.

Good luck and sign me up for a first edition.

Joe
 
I found Lights Out on THR and joined Frugal Squirrel so I could read it. Recently there was some kind of stink on F/S about people posting stuff they shouldn’t and G-men questioning the owner of the sight. The whole thing has given me the willies and I don’t go there any more (don’t want to end up on some "gubment list") so I'm glad to see that someone is posting the story hear.

There is a guy on F/S who writes very good stories (GrayBeard or Gray Ghost or Gray Bear? I cant remember his name) "To Build a Land", it is a series about a family from pre war Tennessee and going on several generations having moved to Texas, lots of gun info/fights. If anyone knows him, could you see if he would post on THR?
 
Horsesense. The people that posted the bogus info at frugal are no longer there, so don;t worry about a visit.

The being said, anyone posting on any board that deals with weapons, should already know that your friendly Govt knows you.

The place at frugalsquirrels where they are together is called Collected Works. Should make your reading easier than hunting for a chapter.
 
I just finished reading all the way up thru chapter 69. Great book!


1. How did you find out about "Lights Out"?

Here on THR.

2. What was your initial reaction to the first chapter?

That the book looked promising.

3. How much did you read before you knew that you liked it or didn't like it?

A couple of chapters.

4. Are the characters described in enough detail?

Yes

5. What is your favorite part of the story?

The fact that Mark is a reluctant hero.

6. What is your least favorite part of the story?

That I don't know how it turns out. ;)

7. Is there too much or not enough detail in parts? (Please give examples.)

The level of detail is just right.

8. In your opinion, what would make the story better?

Dunno.
 
Frugal Squirrel site gone.....

It's a good thing Obi has been posting up the pdfs for lights out.
The fellow who runs Frugal Squirrel had a little trouble with (hosting?), and now the site is gone. Don't know if he was able to save anything or not.
 
Frugals has had some problems recently. It seesm that the folks he was using to host the site had gone bankrupt, so they are doing everything they can to bring it back.

I just recently posted the start of a story that I am writing on there , so I dont know whats going to be brought back or not.

It's too bad there isn't a place here where we can post stories.
 
I want more

I found this story last Saturday and lost the weekend reading it.
I really enjoyed all the details and settings.

Thanks Halffast, and I am waiting for the next chapter.

Is there some email notifiaction list where new chapters are annonounced?
 
I read Chapter 68 at lunch today. I want to kill "Big O" myself. :fire: It's amazing how a fictional story can evoke such strong emotion in a person. That must be the mark of good writing.
 
More of life imitating art . . .

"Unready For This Attack"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/w...anguage=printer


by Senator Jon Kyle of Arizona.
Pure BS..

1st off a Scud (mentioned in the article) doesn't have the range to reach the US. At least not from anywhere but Canada or Mexico.

2nd Scuds don't go extra-atmospheric which would be necessary to get a single nuke capable of producing a powerful enough EMP to cover the whole US.

3rd to take out the power grid (really only the controllers and computers) with a single nuke would take one really, really large nuc. Like in the 100's of Megaton range (city busters - the US had a few but most of the 100 megatoners were soviet).

Killing the power grid has indeed been studied. While serving in the USN I took a course on and later taught about the potential after effects of a limited Nuclear War on the US (back in the early 80's when limited nuclear war was thought to be a possibility). One of the topics dealt with EMP and it's effects. We were taught (and I had no reason then and have no reason now to doubt what we were taught) that it would take a minimum of 12 Hydrogen devices in the 1 to 5 megaton range spaced evenly above the US at an altitude of around 50 miles to take out all non-hardened and thus susceptible electronic devices (which includes anything that uses unshielded semi-conductors).

Is taking out the power grid in the US possible. Most assuredly but not by one nuke and definitely not by one that could be carried on a scud.

The senator is spitting Bovine Feces out his oral orifice and needs to get his facts straight. He knows it's BS too I'd bet and is just doing his politician thing to forward what ever agenda he has by scaring the sheep.
 
A nephew just back from service in the USAF spoke about some newer technologies that the US used to shut down power grids in Iraq and Kosivo. basically a big bundle of carbon fiber conductors, which would deploy out of the slip stream of device and hit a power station or substation or powerline and just cause all the circuit breakers to trip. would not blow anything up. but would just blow the fuses. aparently worked very well, but this was confined to small areas not vast territories. One of the aims of the war plan was to not destroy the infrastructure, just to tie it up.

As per the Senators claim of a scud attack, If launched from a disguised platform, a frieghter as he claims the BG's have then reaching hte continental US would be possible. And knocking out the US power grid in the senators mind means dropping Boston, NYC, phila, Baltimore, DC and the Carolina banking centers offline. or the Western strip from SD to SF.
He does not care if peoria has power or workable PC's for him all that counts is the business districts and yes that could happen with one emp.
The last big black out went from Nova Scotia to Savanah. as far west as Columbus. Think about that, power plants as far west as Chicago were tripped off line when the demand of the grid exceeded what was available in hte East. Until manual controls were instituted blocking off demand from outside of the general area, no one could restart, that is how the grid works.
 
I don't know the details, but the recent outage of the New York area was a result of "cascading" failures.

I also recall hearing a study 20 years ago that basically said if eletricity ceased to exist, approx 75% of the world's population wouldn't survive.

Lights Out is still a great lesson on "being prepared"--whether its emp, terr attack on water production, civil unrest, tornados, etc.
 
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43956

Iran plans to knock out
U.S. with 1 nuclear bomb

Tests missiles for electro-magnetic pulse weapon that could destroy America's technical infrastructure


WASHINGTON -- Iran is not only covertly developing nuclear weapons, it is already testing ballistic missiles specifically designed to destroy America's technical infrastructure, effectively neutralizing the world's lone superpower, say U.S. intelligence sources, top scientists and western missile industry experts.

The radical Shiite regime has conducted successful tests to determine if its Shahab-3 ballistic missiles, capable of carrying a nuclear warhead, can be detonated by a remote-control device while still in high-altitude flight.

Scientists, including President Reagan's top science adviser, William R. Graham, say there is no other explanation for such tests than preparation for the deployment of Electromagnetic Pulse weapons – even one of which could knock out America's critical electrical and technological infrastructure, effectively sending the continental U.S. back to the 19th century with a recovery time of months or years.

Iran will have that capability – at least theoretically – as soon as it has one nuclear bomb ready to arm such a missile. North Korea, a strategic ally of Iran, already boasts such capability.

[more...]
 
"there is no other explanation for such tests than preparation for the deployment of Electromagnetic Pulse weapons"

What about "clearing out spy sats?"

Regardless, scary stuff indeed.
 
Ya hear that, Halffast?? Iran is preparing to knock out all of our electronics infrastructure. Make sure your book is finished and posted before then. ;)

There will be enough problems to worry about when the real burst happens. You wouldn't want to put up with random strangers showing up at your door demanding hard copies of the last few chapters, would you?
 
Maybe Lightsout gave them the idea!

Clancy wrote a a book that included flying a plane into a building ... This is helping terrorists! Ban books! :rolleyes:
 
A nephew just back from service in the USAF spoke about some newer technologies that the US used to shut down power grids in Iraq and Kosivo. basically a big bundle of carbon fiber conductors, which would deploy out of the slip stream of device and hit a power station or substation or powerline and just cause all the circuit breakers to trip. would not blow anything up. but would just blow the fuses. aparently worked very well, but this was confined to small areas not vast territories. One of the aims of the war plan was to not destroy the infrastructure, just to tie it up.

I'm familiar with the technology. I examined said power plants in Kosovo. It took a long time for said plants to become operational again. It didn't completely destroy the infrastructure, but did enough damage to basically require the power stations to be gutted and nearly completely replaced. It didn't just blow the fuses.


One nuke specifically rigged for EMP would not be able to knock out the power grids for all of the US. Even the largest nukes produced by the USSR. (Very few if any of the massive nukes are operational anymore. Everyone got into the MIRV game. Lots of smaller nukes.) EMP weapons are indeed a threat, but it'd take a number of devices to do so. I don't know the optimium number or placement, and I'm not breaking out the calculator to figure out.

Besides, we have plans for such contingencies. One of them is our fine Navy. Our fine Navy has these wonderful things called "submarines." Some of these wonderful underwater boats carry something call "thermonuclear warheads." They might knock out our power grids, but we can and would turn their entire country into radioactive glass.
 
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