hometheatreguy
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I was under the impression we lost our open carry when we got concealed carry? Is that not true?
Open carrier needs recording device
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hometheatreguy...
FIRST check your state law. Call the state police and ask for a read. Or state attorney... don't check with locals until you've covered the state law. Then determine if there's local ordinances that read contrary to state.
Once determined then check with locals.
For us Virginians for instance, and as I understand it - local gun bans were pre-empted on July 1, 2004 - BUT open carry has been around for ever - almost. Here, CHP does not affect open carry, in fact (July 1) hunters in the field may now conceal weapons during inclement weather without a permit - and carrying a concealed hand gun while walking in the woods DOES NOT constitute hunting. (If this is wrong - I just know I'll be corrected shortly.)
The reason for checking with state first is that we've found local officers are not yet up to the new law changes... it'll take a while before all settles down with their training.
In other words - find out what the prevailing read is on state law, then find out whether there's local banning or not, and if the officers are aware of the new law(s). A few phone calls should do it (but if you run into a "Hell no!" - double - triple - check with other sources.
Hope this helps.
-Andy
FIRST check your state law. Call the state police and ask for a read. Or state attorney... don't check with locals until you've covered the state law. Then determine if there's local ordinances that read contrary to state.
Once determined then check with locals.
For us Virginians for instance, and as I understand it - local gun bans were pre-empted on July 1, 2004 - BUT open carry has been around for ever - almost. Here, CHP does not affect open carry, in fact (July 1) hunters in the field may now conceal weapons during inclement weather without a permit - and carrying a concealed hand gun while walking in the woods DOES NOT constitute hunting. (If this is wrong - I just know I'll be corrected shortly.)
The reason for checking with state first is that we've found local officers are not yet up to the new law changes... it'll take a while before all settles down with their training.
In other words - find out what the prevailing read is on state law, then find out whether there's local banning or not, and if the officers are aware of the new law(s). A few phone calls should do it (but if you run into a "Hell no!" - double - triple - check with other sources.
Hope this helps.
-Andy
deej
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One problem with a personally-carried video device is that it's not going to record YOUR actions (except your speech), but only the actions of others. Since you are presumably trying to document YOUR actions (that you're not brandishing, threatening, etc.), a first-person perspective won't be nearly as useful as a third-person perspective.
If it were strictly in/near-car use, you could go with a standard, PD-issue video camera setup. I suspect, however, that you want something that will be completely portable. Then you'll want something like this:
http://www.4hiddenspycameras.com/posudvr.html (mini DVR)
combined with this:
http://www.4hiddenspycameras.com/cowiboca.html (button camera)
or google around for other similar devices. Remember, though - this won't be recording YOUR actions (unless you contrive to take your jacket off and place it on a bench, and make sure no one gets out of the field of view
), only the actions of others.
DJ
If it were strictly in/near-car use, you could go with a standard, PD-issue video camera setup. I suspect, however, that you want something that will be completely portable. Then you'll want something like this:
http://www.4hiddenspycameras.com/posudvr.html (mini DVR)
combined with this:
http://www.4hiddenspycameras.com/cowiboca.html (button camera)
or google around for other similar devices. Remember, though - this won't be recording YOUR actions (unless you contrive to take your jacket off and place it on a bench, and make sure no one gets out of the field of view
), only the actions of others.DJ
Pilgrim
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There was talk of Maryland prosecuting Linda Tripp for recording her conversations with Monica Lewinski concerning the Clinton stained blue dress and other matters.
Pilgrim
deej
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Nope, can't say I have. I've seen similar devices before, you might google around some and check out the company's rep. (Stating the obvious, I know. )
DJ
)DJ
hometheatreguy
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I think you misunderstood me BB62. I don't want a CCW permit. I would rather just open carry without training I don't need. I heard with the passage of the handgun law that we can ONLY carry with a permit now and only concealed which I thought was BS when I heard it, but the dealer seemed to know for sure and I believed him.
HTG - no, the passage of the CCW law has finally given Ohioans the opportunity to legally carry concealed.
Open carry is legal, per the OSC decision in Klein v Leis - and is not affected by the passage of HB12. HOWEVER, the OSC decision is less sweeping (and less sweeping away) than OFCC would like to admit, but it was good enough for the open carry "Defense Walks".
Here is the decision: http://tinyurl.com/7x5lv
Again, any other suggestions for recording devices from anyone?
Thanks,
BB62
Open carry is legal, per the OSC decision in Klein v Leis - and is not affected by the passage of HB12. HOWEVER, the OSC decision is less sweeping (and less sweeping away) than OFCC would like to admit, but it was good enough for the open carry "Defense Walks".
Here is the decision: http://tinyurl.com/7x5lv
Again, any other suggestions for recording devices from anyone?
Thanks,
BB62
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