It's official and decided - we now have the M17, although it will be awhile before it's in the hands of most of those MOS's who need to carry one.
What does it do better? It's the trigger group - it's a drop in, similar in function to the drop in triggers for an AR. It's not pinned to the frame with every part rotating on something that goes thru another piece of metal either molded in the frame or bored thru it. It is also the serial numbered part.
For military purposes the grip units are accessories to fit the gun to the hand and house the magazine length as specified. It won't be issued as a kit with multiple slides, barrels, grips, etc. The armorer will keep spares back and there is the same chance of you having to just get used to having the wrong size as it was for me having to wear size small Goretex overtrousers. It was all they had. I barely got them on and that was after trading with someone else who was worse off.
We might rejoice on the civilian market about all the modularity but the Army will still be the Army.
One significant point of the trigger group being all one piece is that it could also be dropped into other grip units - and I'm thinking past pink subcompacts or overstyled 1911 looking units with death's head grip panels.
A carbine stock.
No reason to say "it can't be done" when the ATF already allows a stripped or pistol receiver to be converted into a rifle with 16" barrel and back again. It's already done with AR's and pistols as it is, although typically with full grip frame units. This just trims it down some.
Add barrel and slide as needed, and go shoot. I perceive that it will be handled under the law as being the same thing.
As for the NFA part, the barrel length issue remains, no doubt, but it also goes to those people not even seeing that in the long run this could be possible. 1934 was a long time ago, and the socialists in our country then attempting to strip the 2A were trying to do exactly that.
Along with that potential incarnation, the gun itself will likely fuel a host of aftermarket accessories in it's lifetime. It's going to be around for 25 years, and like Glocks which now can be built on the aftermarket completely out of nonGlock parts, we will likely see kitchen table M17's that barely resemble the original item we've haven't begun to recognize.
Possibly 3D printed grip units one of a kind. Or CNC alloy lowers. Our imagination is the limit, and if production costs get lowered - which polymer did do in making frames - then it's going to be a marketing free for all. The P320 may become the "Chevy small block" of the handgun world.
And some of them are going to be extreme, you can bet on that. If gold plated engraved and blinged out Berattas or SIG's in chrome step tread plate seem bad enough, we could easily see skull styled pistol grips aka that mag well AR lower that seems to never die.
Purple metal flake with flames, any one? Blueberry Navy camo and SEAL's engraving on the slide? In my experience if the public has taste at all, some of it will put money toward bad taste, and it will happen.
Y'all be careful out there, it's said what the eyes have seen can't be unseen.
What does it do better? It's the trigger group - it's a drop in, similar in function to the drop in triggers for an AR. It's not pinned to the frame with every part rotating on something that goes thru another piece of metal either molded in the frame or bored thru it. It is also the serial numbered part.
For military purposes the grip units are accessories to fit the gun to the hand and house the magazine length as specified. It won't be issued as a kit with multiple slides, barrels, grips, etc. The armorer will keep spares back and there is the same chance of you having to just get used to having the wrong size as it was for me having to wear size small Goretex overtrousers. It was all they had. I barely got them on and that was after trading with someone else who was worse off.
We might rejoice on the civilian market about all the modularity but the Army will still be the Army.
One significant point of the trigger group being all one piece is that it could also be dropped into other grip units - and I'm thinking past pink subcompacts or overstyled 1911 looking units with death's head grip panels.
A carbine stock.
No reason to say "it can't be done" when the ATF already allows a stripped or pistol receiver to be converted into a rifle with 16" barrel and back again. It's already done with AR's and pistols as it is, although typically with full grip frame units. This just trims it down some.
Add barrel and slide as needed, and go shoot. I perceive that it will be handled under the law as being the same thing.
As for the NFA part, the barrel length issue remains, no doubt, but it also goes to those people not even seeing that in the long run this could be possible. 1934 was a long time ago, and the socialists in our country then attempting to strip the 2A were trying to do exactly that.
Along with that potential incarnation, the gun itself will likely fuel a host of aftermarket accessories in it's lifetime. It's going to be around for 25 years, and like Glocks which now can be built on the aftermarket completely out of nonGlock parts, we will likely see kitchen table M17's that barely resemble the original item we've haven't begun to recognize.
Possibly 3D printed grip units one of a kind. Or CNC alloy lowers. Our imagination is the limit, and if production costs get lowered - which polymer did do in making frames - then it's going to be a marketing free for all. The P320 may become the "Chevy small block" of the handgun world.
And some of them are going to be extreme, you can bet on that. If gold plated engraved and blinged out Berattas or SIG's in chrome step tread plate seem bad enough, we could easily see skull styled pistol grips aka that mag well AR lower that seems to never die.
Purple metal flake with flames, any one? Blueberry Navy camo and SEAL's engraving on the slide? In my experience if the public has taste at all, some of it will put money toward bad taste, and it will happen.
Y'all be careful out there, it's said what the eyes have seen can't be unseen.
