I apologize to the participants for this divergence.
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Lol, talk about Rant, I am exposing my income level? Comfort level? Sorry but you have no idea of either. You can try and belittle me if you like, that is fine if it makes you feel good. If you could have actually taken the time to read the post, you would have seen that I said very clearly that it is not always possible to rent or shoot a future gun. But again, and I clearly pointed out that the op should see both sides of the coin and that seems to not agree with you. And if you want to shame me for being careful and Frugal, then again that is fine as well. And please forgive me 460 for giving my opinion that differed from yours. I would guess your biggest rise in causing you to attempt insult me is my comment from you about the revolver trigger. I still think it was way out of line.
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There is no belittling going on in my comment and I’ve read the entire thread. We all have different means and I was being genuine when I said I was sorry because not being able to spend much on a blind chance can really limit a gun owner. To me $500 is reasonable, to others it isn’t. You did in fact share your comfort level by stating that $500 is a lot of money to you. It has nothing to do with income and everything to do with what a person can manage to spend based on their choice and circumstances. I have no kids and work a lot of overtime, so my flexibility is undoubtedly greater than others. That’s just reality, not a judgment. There’s nothing wrong with being frugal. I’m frugal also and that’s why I can buy guns at all.
If comparing one trigger to the trigger of another gun due to some similarities is out of line, then I don’t understand why you are partaking in this forum at all. I owned a 642 for a year and a half, so it wasn’t an uneducated comment and there are similarities to the DA of a Kahr IMO.
By the way, I spent a lot more money and time than your 1 box of ammo to test the gun. I shot the gun quite a bit more than you. Watched others shoot the gun and listened to their opinions.And shot other firearms side by side to get a honest evaluation.
And this forum had post after post, of people against the 365. People insulting the manufacturer the gun etc. I on the other hand took up for the gun and praised it. Funny you did not accuse me of ranting when I gave those honest opinions.
That’s great that you got to test the P365 more extensively than I did.
The range I shot it at only charged $10 to rent it, but required you to shoot their ammo which was priced at $18.99 for 50 rounds of 9mm. I shot up those 50 rounds in ten minutes. So if I’d kept shooting it it at that pace it would’ve cost me $173.94/hour. Umm, no thanks. I saw no reason to continue spending money when I could tell after the first box of ammo that I liked the gun and wanted one. It’s also $25 per lane so I’d have been looking at $200 to spend an hour with that gun. Sounds like you got a lot more exposure than I did. That’s cool.
Regarding the word “rant”. For me it stems from your use of a lot of bold text. It comes off as yelling. If you took that as an accusation, sorry. I know you’re just trying to emphasize a point, but when read, it sounds ranty. I don’t read everything you post, so regarding your other positive comments in other threads, that’s neither hear nor there.
I guess it would have been better to come right out and tell the OP to keep what he had. I decided to give suggestions why he should at least try out the gun first. Bad idea from your side of the coin.
Um, no. I stated clearly that shooting the gun first was preferable. The issue I had was that it may not be possible. I saw that you acknowledged later that sometimes you have to role the dice, and that’s good. That doesn’t invalidate my comment. Assuming other shooters have the same exposure and rental opportunities is always a bad idea.
There have been a ton of post on this forum about the 365, and obviously the OP was not sure. I guess I took the wrong side. and should have have told him to go ahead even if I felt that might be a wrong decision. Sorry that is just not me to do things like that. I am however regretting even attempting to help the OP. Sometimes on gun forums, honesty is not always the best policy.
Do and regret whatever you like. You shared an opinion and that’s fine. If you’re going to get your knickers in a twist because someone disagrees or feels you are assuming too much, or points out that your assertion about what a poster should do may not apply, well best of luck and have fun on the internet.
PS How ironic that you claim that $500 is out of my comfort zone and IAM exposiing my income level and you are Sorry for that.Then Brag about how you have dished out on multiple times, a $1,000 for a gun you have never shot prior. LOL, you then tell us you went to the range, bought a box of ammo for the 365 and but did not just go ahead and get the gun?
Well again, you misunderstood my comment.
I was being genuine about being sorry you have less flexibility than I in regards to what I’m willing to spend. I limit myself to one or two gun purchases a year because I pay a mortgage all my bills, and am saving heavily for retirement, but I’m in the phase where I’d rather have fewer guns and really get the ones I want. So again, it’s just a matter of choices. There’s no judgement there. Dropping $1000+ is just the level of risk I’m comfortable with in regards to buying a gun blind that I think I will like. If I don’t I trade it for something else.
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Just because I love a certain gun does not make it a great choice for all. $500.00 plus extra mags etc. is not throw away money to me. It is a lot of money.
I haven’t stated anything that you didn’t say yourself.
So what gives? Out of your comfort zone? Certainly a guy like yourself would have no problem forking over a measly $500.00. You stated that. Or could it be different when it is actually Your money and it is so much easier to spend some one else's?? Or maybe your talk is actually bigger than your wallet?
Wow. I didn’t buy it because I can’t afford to buy every gun I want at the same time. So yes, that day it was outside my comfort zone. I never said that I thought $500 was a measly sum, and never said I buy whatever I want. I said it was a reasonable amount to a lot of people to buy blind. That isn’t bragging or a statement about my wallet. I’m a working person and guns are my passion so I choose to make funds available for personal experimentation on guns I think I’d like because rental and testing opportunities are slim here. It’s a two hour round trip to the range and their selection is limited.
I didn’t buy it because I had other priorities on my gun list, like this one. I ordered one of these off Gunbroker yesterday because this particular configuration is getting hard to find. It’s a $1200 gun, and I certainly don’t make enough money to do that very often.
It will now be awhile before I can afford another gun. I also have other small guns that will fill the role that a P365 would that will certainly tide me over.
Look, we are more than flirting with thread lock, but I’m not going to sit and not address a bunch of accusations. So at this point I’m just going to say have a great day and feel free to put me on your ignore list. It may save you some heartburn in the future if you find my comments offensive.
I apologize to the OP. In my experience the P365 is worth taking a risk on. If you can’t shoot one first you may have to take a chance. Others have differing opinions and that’s fine.
Good luck. Let us know if you pick one up.
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