P365 w/ Thumb Safety - Y/N?

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I have read a few threads where folks talk about the thumb safety on the P365 negatively, yet as I consider the P365 as my new EDC, I think I want one with the safety.

I have been carrying the SIG P938 for about 4 years every day with a safety, a 1911 commander before that, and most of my guns are SAO with safeties.

I understand the design of the striker block safety and all of the other protections that are built-into the P365, but I personally feel better knowing there is a safety. Too many years carrying "cocked and locked".

Thoughts?
 
Sig has been in the game for a long time and know the drill. Some like them, some don't. From what you write above, I would say you would have more peace of mind with the safety, it's hardwired into your draw.
It's a good thing they sell both configurations.

I wouldn't buy one if it the safety model were the only choice. Many hours would need to be dedicated to incorporating it into my draw stroke.
 
No safety for me Doublehelix. I just don't see the need for one on a handgun without a hammer. In fact that's one reason I switched to the P365 from the P938. I prefer the more simple manual of arms. That, and plus 4 rounds in nearly the same size package. How SIG did that is a mystery. Magic! :what:

Like Tinman357 said, you prefer the safety so that's what you should gravitate towards. SIG understands their customers, so that's why they are making a safety equipped P365 just for you.
 
I use to carry a P229 and habitually thumbed the hammer when holstering, because if something got caught in the trigger guard I'd have tactile feedback and could back out. You don't get that with a striker-fired, which is one reason I'm considering a P365 w/safety. On the other hand, it adds another action (disengaging safety) that needs to be practiced and practiced until it's automatic. And you can always forget to engage the safety which would be the same as not having one.

I'm currently carrying a 19x for the Winter and although I am very cautious, if I start believing I'm immune to "Glock Leg" that's when an ND will happen. I guess if the safety makes one feel safer it may be worth it, as long as one is willing to train with it and exercise the same level of caution as without one.
 
Many of my pistols have ambi thumb safeties and I like them. However I don't really like the shape of the safety on my P938. My thumb can slip over it if I'm in a hurry and I much prefer an extended safety for that reason.
I'm looking forward to fondling the 365 with safety and possibly replacing my 938 with it.
 
I chose a non safety Shied vs safety when I bought my Shield, and would do so with a P-365 if both were offered. They were not when I bought my P-365.
 
I understand the design of the striker block safety and all of the other protections that are built-into the P365, but I personally feel better knowing there is a safety.
Then you should choose one with the safety.
Too many years carrying "cocked and locked".
I have 4 plus decades of it, but still choose a non safety P-365.

Gotta do what you feel comfortable with.
 
I don’t really feel a safety is needed on this gun, but given that you’ve been carrying a P938 for years, and are used to that operation, as long as the safety works for your particular grip, it seems the logical choice.

I’m planning to pick up a P365 and a P938 Legion both.
 
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No thanks on the manual safety. I use an IWB kydex holster that completely covers the trigger. I just don't like manual safeties on striker-fired pistol.
Sometimes there isn't a choice (it's the only thing I don't like about my 2 SAR9s). However, given a choice... no thanks.

Hammer fired, absolutely.
 
What striker-fired pistol has a safety that automatically engages?

Because I keep hearing people say they would never buy one with a safety because they would have to learn a new muscle memory to disengage it, or that flicking it off is too much for them to handle.

Pretty sure most safeties don't engage all by themselves...

I bought a Taurus G2C for the heck of it and it has a safety. I don't think I've ever used it. It has also never engaged itself magically.

What are these pistols where the safety clicks on all by itself, or must be used by the shooter?
 
Im a Murphy’s Law believer....to a fault.

If a gun has a manual safety, use it always. If you choose not to and just leave it off there is an exceedingly low likelihood that the safety could somehow get put into the on position. Then when you need your gun and you have not trained to disengage the safety and you just commence firing like you did train to do, the gun does not fire and you lose time or never get the chance to figure out what is wrong.

My other beef is, for a carry gun, if it is designed in such a way that it is safe to carry without a engaged or with no safety at all, why is there even a manual safety option? Yes I am talking about a lot of DA/SA pistols that have a safety/decocker and not just a decocker. There are a significant number of stiriker fired pistols out there with manual safeties as well but what baffles me is there are models that are perfectly identical except for the presence of a manual safety. Glock got it right in this regard. Simple.

As a student of Murphy and as a believer in KISS, I find these options quite superfluous. Everyone has a personal preference in the end. But just like the cross bolt safeties on Marlins and a plethora of other “devices” on so many guns from the end of the last century, WHY would you introduce complication into a tool that functions best in its simplest state?
 
I have safeties on my two carry pistols and prefer that configuration. I'm 40 and haven't ever needed to deploy a gun and I live in a very safe area/state, so the likelihood I ever will need a gun for protection is really low. I do however handle them and holster them daily, and I like having that extra margin of safety for the thousands of times I'll handle them without wanting them to fire. When I practice drawing and shooting I make disengaging the safety part of the process so I do it without having to think about it.
 
If you like your safety, you can keep your safety. None of my carry guns have thumb safeties any more. I used to carry a 1911, so I have carried a pistol with a safety in the past. That said, when I moved away from 1911, I felt like I should be consistent across all of my carry pistols, either all with a thumb safety, or none.
 
No safety on my P365. None needed. It's big brother, my P320 M17 came with the safety. I just ignore it. It is small enough that it doesn't get in the way.
 
It all depends on what you train with. If you train by manually taking your CCW off safety before engaging a target, then having a P365 with a manual safety would not be a bad choice. Personally, I have trained and carried guns with and without manual safeties and I much prefer the piece of mind of simply draw, point, and squeeze. It also gives me piece of mind with my home defense pistol that my wife knows to just grab it, point and shoot. But different strokes for different folks. As long as you train, there is no right or wrong answer.
 
I have read a few threads where folks talk about the thumb safety on the P365 negatively, yet as I consider the P365 as my new EDC, I think I want one with the safety.

I have been carrying the SIG P938 for about 4 years every day with a safety, a 1911 commander before that, and most of my guns are SAO with safeties.

I understand the design of the striker block safety and all of the other protections that are built-into the P365, but I personally feel better knowing there is a safety. Too many years carrying "cocked and locked".

Thoughts?
The odds AD or ND are far greater than the odds of actually using a firearm for SD. Why not err on the side of safety? Besides, you don't have to actually use the safe but the option is there if you want to.
 
The odds AD or ND are far greater than the odds of actually using a firearm for SD. Why not err on the side of safety?
The same argument is used by anti's in opposition of concealed carry and the 2A in general.
Why not buy the handgun YOU want and respect the right of others to do the same. Blaming a gun or type of gun for ND's annoys me.
 
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Pretty sure most safeties don't engage all by themselves...
Several times, my carry guns with safeties were unholstered at the end of the day with the safeties 'Off,' though holstered with them on. Before you make assumptions otherwise, I do not use crap holsters. High Noon, Zlongonje, Crossbreed, Triple K, DeSantis, etc.
It can happen, as earthegoat2 said. You have a gun with a safety, practice with it.
Every. Single. Time.
 
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The same argument is used by anti's in opposition of concealed carry and the 2A in general.
Why not buy the handgun YOU want and respect the right of others to do the same. Blaming a gun or type of gun for ND's annoys me.

I am just referencing statistics. I don't care what kind of gun you buy. The OP's question was whether to buy a P-365 with a safety or not. My answer is right on point. Being annoyed is your problem - not mine. And frankly, I don't care what the anti's do. They do not speak for me.
 
Several times, my carry guns with safeties were unholstered at the end of the day with the safeties 'Off,' though holstered with them on. Before you make assumptions otherwise, I do not use crap holsters. High Noon, Zlongonje, Crossbreed, Triple K, DeSantis, etc.
It can happen, as earthegoat2 said. You have a gun with a safety, practice with it.
Every. Single. Time.

I have had that happen to me several times. It scares the crud out of me every time. My EDC holster covers the trigger, but not the safety.
 
Interesting how Murphy's Law will cause your safety to engage when you don't want it too, or cause you to miss disengaging the safety in a draw, but could NEVER cause you to have a ND with something other than your trigger finger unintentionally impinging on a typical low weight / short travel striker trigger.
 
The 365 doesnt need one in my opinion, trigger is long and heavy enough I wouldnt want one. Guns that size I typically would use a single clip holster (well, I do for all guns these days) and as habit holster off the body, then clip on. So no chance of fumbling a piece of material in trigger guard while holstering.

What striker-fired pistol has a safety that automatically engages?

Because I keep hearing people say they would never buy one with a safety because they would have to learn a new muscle memory to disengage it, or that flicking it off is too much for them to handle.

Pretty sure most safeties don't engage all by themselves...

I bought a Taurus G2C for the heck of it and it has a safety. I don't think I've ever used it. It has also never engaged itself magically.

What are these pistols where the safety clicks on all by itself, or must be used by the shooter?

I've had a few 1911s, 226 SAO and a Ruger SR9c occasionally disengage the safety while in the holster, likely from rubbing the ambidextrous safety on something during my daily life, easily can stand to think the same actions could engage a safety intentionally left off.

Non ambi safeties? Probably not unless you flub the holstering process and engage it there, which is possible.

I am a firm proponent of train to use all your gun's features every time and prefer to carry a SAO cocked and locked.
 
Interesting how Murphy's Law will cause your safety to engage when you don't want it too, or cause you to miss disengaging the safety in a draw, but could NEVER cause you to have a ND with something other than your trigger finger unintentionally impinging on a typical low weight / short travel striker trigger.
You are right...the trigger is to be treated as deadly.... ALWAYS. Regardless of safeties.
 
Non ambi safeties? Probably not unless you flub the holstering process and engage it there, which is possible.
One of my carry guns has a non ambi safety... still happened even though I checked safety status after holstering. Safety presses against my body, so who knows.

I am a firm proponent of train to use all your gun's features every time and prefer to carry a SAO cocked and locked.
Bottom line!!
 
I can sympathize with those wanting a safety on a striker fired trigger. My personal preference would be a hammer fired DAO at the size, capacity, and weight of the 365. I know it won’t happen, but a fella can dream.
 
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