Percentage of prohibited people who try to buy guns?

[Basura Blanca]

The thing that really confuses me is the number of people who ask if they can have a BR check run before putting their money on a gun. You don't remember if you committed a felony or got busted for domestic violence?

I would wager that not everyone knows exactly *what* might disqualify them if it's the first time they've bought a gun.

 

[AlexanderA]

Has any background check ever stopped a determined murderer from obtaining weaponry? No.

Have background checks been an infringement on law abiding citizens? Yes.

Were things worse before GCA '68 (or NFA '34 for that matter)? No.

Scrap the entire system, and focus the energy, money, and time on catching criminals and giving them sentences commiserate with their crimes.

In theory you are correct, but you are overlooking the "theater" aspect of lawmaking. Legislators respond to voters, who in turn respond to media reports. Both voters and the media, in general, are profoundly ignorant about guns and how they are currently regulated. We can mock the urge to "do something," but it's the unfortunate reality.

 

[Ephraim Kibbey]

In many states, adding information to the data base about recent crimes occurs very slowly if at all so a felon might well believe he could beat the system.

 

[IJ1981]

Has any background check ever stopped a determined murderer from obtaining weaponry? No.

Have background checks been an infringement on law abiding citizens? Yes.

Were things worse before GCA '68 (or NFA '34 for that matter)? No.

Scrap the entire system, and focus the energy, money, and time on catching criminals and giving them sentences commiserate with their crimes.

I completely agree. Brilliant minds think alike!

 

[MedWheeler]

FlSwamprat writes:

The thing that really confuses me is the number of people who ask if they can have a BR check run before putting their money on a gun.

I can remember at least twice in recent years I have had to abandon a purchase because the BGC was taking too long. One was at a gun show, from a seller who was not local to me.

In both cases, I was glad I had not yet paid for the firearms.

 

[SamT1]

Laws may not work 100% to prevent certain behavior, but at least they establish what is "normative." We all know that laws against murder don't prevent murder, but the problem would be much worse if there were no laws against murder.

The idea that once a felon has served his prison time, he should be given a blank slate and allowed to buy guns, just isn't realistic. If he has really reformed, there are provisions for expunging his record by going back to court. This is difficult, as it should be.

That’s the whole problem these days. People base their moral compass on what the government says and not Jesus Christ. Our constitution was designed to work based on the fact of people answering to a higher power not man. Now days since many don’t we keep having to add laws.

 

[Kendahl]

Just thought you might like to hear about one case where the 4473 and even a background check, had they been in use, would not have prevented a murder.

It also shows criminals will still get weapons. He was not allowed to own firearms. So he got a cross bow. If cross bows needed a 4473 check, my money is he would have gotten a knife and done the same thing.

In the United Kingdom, long guns are tightly regulated and handguns prohibited entirely. A few months ago, a guy who was upset that his girl friend had dumped him went to a store and bought a paring knife. He found his ex girl friend, stabbed her to death because she wouldn't take him back, and then waited quietly for police to come and arrest him. I expect he willingly pleaded guilty to her murder. When someone values your death above his own life, it takes extreme measures to stop him.

 

[TimRB]

Low iq is linked to aggression, impulsivity, and lack of objective thinking.

Well, that certainly explains the California legislature.

Tim

 

[CoalTrain49]

You may find your answer here.

https://www.gao.gov/assets/700/694290.pdf


Seems the ATF is saying they have a policy that they review the denials but don't have the manpower to do the required work.

My dealer told me that the ATF asked him to retrieve a firearm he sold. You probably know what his answer was.