Well I shelled out the money, $350 and picked up a 181 series Mini 14 with 500 rounds of ammo and 2 30 round maga and a 10 round. It shoots pretty well. I'm gonna have to get the muzzle brake and see if I can shrink the groups though. Only 1 30 round mag actually works. The 10 round actually holds 14 but won't click home in the mag well with any ammount in it. The 1 30 round worked flawlessly and the othere jammed twice then popped appart. So those 2 go back to the store today. Overall I like it and it will make a nice gun to play with.