Picked up a Sig P210-2

[bc1023]

I've shot both. Don't get me wrong. I like the old Swiss and German ones, for what they are. They aren't perfect, however. I prefer the 210A beavertail. The 210A has stock adjustable sights, instead of drift-to-adjust fixed irons. The 210A has the Magazine release in a better position. The Safety on the 210A is in a better position. The 210A has a better front sight, in addition to the adjustable rear. You can have a choice for an adapter for a Red Dot on the 210A, and it doesn't require any modification to the slide. The grips are better on the American's. The trigger is the same.

Tough as nails? Isn't there a scratch on that 210-2 from merely using the safety?

Personally, I think the slide to frame fit on the new ones is better and slicker than on the old ones. Hand fitting, by a skilled craftsman is often great. CNC parts are almost always great.

I do see the appeal of everything made out of machined barstock on the older ones. There are a few mim parts on the Americans. In theory, MIM will result in a part with more accurate dimensions, for heat treating machined barstock parts can result in the parts warping during the process.



One would think supply and demand were part of the equation, especially since they don't make the 210-2 anymore.I like the old Sig P210s as collectibles. I'd leave them original. You yourself said they were an 'investment', and they aren't making them any more. The new 210As easily shoot as well, are cheaper, have support/parts/warranty from the factory, have better sight options and ergonomics. Positives on both sides.

One of the greatest things about America is we can choose. Win-win, either way.

Old Ferraris are still cool. You can see them in the rearview mirror of those blasphemous new Ferraris sometimes

The scratch on the frame is simply due to the design. It has nothing to do with the toughness or durability of the gun, of which very few guns can match.

To put it in perspective, the P210A is built to the standards of say a American P226 Elite. The Legend is from the German Mastershop and built to the standards of a P226 X-Five. Two different levels of quality and fit and finish, not to mention the design alterations. There’s a reason why the prices are so different.

The Swiss models, especially the older ones are built to a different level, using the finest materials.

Many of the Swiss and German guns have fully adjustable sights.

Glad you like the gun and if the tactical differences are good for what you’re using it for, that’s great. They just aren’t for experienced P210 guys. I know quite a few who have been shooting P210’s for many years and the sentiment is consistent.

My feelings are it’s a good bang for the buck, much like some of the CZ Custom pistols. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[RugerOldArmy]

The scratch on the frame is simply due to the design.

The Legend is from the German Mastershop and built to the standards of a P226 X-Five.

So, the 'German Mastershop' had a design that put a scratch on the frame from use, and all those controls (mag release, safety) in funky places? Did you notice that EVERY ONE of those 210s in your picture has this scratch/fault? Is having two parts that rub together and scratch each other the pinnacle of quality? You would think a 'mastershop' would improve the design, have controls in a decent place, and would have better sights too.

Still, you should be happy. Regardless of all the design flaws, some people will want one because they believe everything made in Switzerland or Germany is better. You know, for the 'Fahrvergnügen'!

(You do realize, I'm yanking your chain, cause you rained on my parade when I bought the 210A, and posted, don't you? It is all in fun.)

 

[Rodentman]

I tried to find a decent P210 but couldn't. Maybe I didn't look hard enough. When the P210a came out I bought one and find it exceptional compared to the rest of my collection. I never fired or handled an original P210 so they may indeed be infinitely superior. For my level in the hobby I am well chuffed with the American model. I DO have a Sig X-5 though in 40 S&W and that's a fine shooter too.

Someone mentioned Rolexes. There's where most of my hobby $ are dedicated. I have 6, including the DSSD and new Daytona C. Then there is the Morgan dollar collection. Too many expensive hobbies for this poor retired rodent.

 

[bc1023]

So, the 'German Mastershop' had a design that put a scratch on the frame from use, and all those controls (mag release, safety) in funky places? Did you notice that EVERY ONE of those 210s in your picture has this scratch/fault? Is having two parts that rub together and scratch each other the pinnacle of quality? You would think a 'mastershop' would improve the design, have controls in a decent place, and would have better sights too.

Still, you should be happy. Regardless of all the design flaws, some people will want one because they believe everything made in Switzerland or Germany is better. You know, for the 'Fahrvergnügen'!

(You do realize, I'm yanking your chain, cause you rained on my parade when I bought the 210A, and posted, don't you? It is all in fun.)

I hear you man

Its cool. I do have one buddy who bought a P210A and really enjoys it. That's the only one I shot and it performed well. I'm just too much of a tradionalist and purist, but the P210A certainly has a good place on the market.

...and, by the way, it was the Mastershop that fixed the safety stratch.

 

[RugerOldArmy]

Its cool.

Although I stand by my comments comparing the two models, Kudos for a spiffy collection of fine pistols.

I was running out of ways to insult the Swiss 210s. All I had left was 'Swatch' and 'Nespresso' references to Swiss Manufacture.

Thanks for taking a ribbing with a good sense of humor.

 

[bc1023]

Although I stand by my comments comparing the two models, Kudos for a spiffy collection of fine pistols.

I was running out of ways to insult the Swiss 210s. All I had left was 'Swatch' and 'Nespresso' references to Swiss Manufacture.

Thanks for taking a ribbing with a good sense of humor.

No problem

I can certainly understand the practicality of the P210A. It’s not for me, but I can see the appeal to others