Pizza store robber backs up threat with weapon. E-town, Ky

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Ironically, I was sitting at another pizzeria in E-town with my cousin at the same time this happened. If I happened to be at the one he robbed, I'd have to say if his gun went click, with no bang, I wouldn't wait for him to try it again. Kid or no kid. I don't know the difference between an air-powered gun that didn't shoot, or a gun that failed to fire. He's lucky I don't like Little Ceasars.

How would you have handled this?

http://www.thenewsenterprise.com/articles/2007/07/23/news/news04.txt

Pizza store robber backs up threat with weapon


By BOB WHITE
Sunday, July 22, 2007 9:40 PM CDT


ELIZABETHTOWN — A pizzeria manager and her assistant are grateful to be uninjured after being shot at during a Saturday afternoon robbery.

According to Melissa Hawkins, around 2 p.m. a teenage boy entered the store lobby where she and another employee, April Cleaver, were working. He fired his weapon directly at them without warning, Hawkins said.
When nothing expelled from the barrel, Hawkins and Cleaver hurried through the lobby door to the kitchen area — locking the door behind them, Hawkins said.

“That’s when he said we had 10 seconds to give him all the money in the register or else he’d shoot,” Hawkins said. “I told him I would if he put the gun down.”

The robber pointed the gun away from the employees, Cleaver said. The contents of the cash drawer were surrendered to the boy, who then fled the store.

Hawkins said police have made an arrest. Investigators working the case were unavailable for comment Sunday afternoon and Lincoln Village Juvenile Detention center staff would not confirm an arrest because of policies regarding juvenile privacy.

Although the robber covered his face in adhesive bandages and wore sunglasses, Hawkins and Cleaver both say they recognized the teen as a boy who frequented the pizzeria and once applied for a job there.

Although the robber was armed with what is thought to have been an air-powered gun, Cleaver said she wants the teen to face stiff consequences, since a pellet gun can cause serious injury.

“I’m only 22 and my life could’ve ended right there,” Cleaver said. “He should have everything thrown at him.”

Hawkins also took the incident seriously. She was hesitant to return to work at the business because of the fear the teen instilled in her, she said Sunday.

Both employees said the robber counted aloud, backward from 10, as they opened the cash drawer. The countdown was something both said they won’t forget.
 
BB gun, pellet gun, slingshot, knife, baseball bat or even bare fist...a weapon is a weapon. When coupled with intent to cause great boldily harm or death, any of these constitute sufficient grounds for defensive action.
 
As startled as I might be at the first unannounced "shot", the failure of it to fire would be my indication I've been given a chance to live. I would also likely be over that counter and shoving that gun so far up that he'd taste the plastic of the front sight.

The fact they left a possible hiding spot to give the cash over is foolish in my mind. You're behind cover, let him come to you and be at a disadvantage. The other patrons, to be blunt, are not the cashier's problem, so there's no reason to get up, come out of the kitchen, and risk your own life (again) to give him the money. Once you're behind cover, stay behind cover.
 
Uhhhh, Wow.

Boy, the invulnerability of youth.

If you're behind cover (or at least concealment) and the BG can't get to you, it would seem prudent to decline the BG's offer, while calling emergency services.

Strategic failure for the store: they had no plan and no means of defense.

Tactical failure for the BG: bringing (apparently) an airgun to a gunfight.

Well, no one died.

This time.
 
why is it that the dismal failure of the policy of hiding the crimes of teens has not been challenged? I say you do the crime, you face all the consequences, and some of the consequences are that your face gets on the news as a violent thug.

if you are old enough to do armed robbery, you are old enough to spend 20 years in prison for it.
 
How would you have reacted if it had been a blank firing gun with no orange tip? Simple, you would have acted as though it was a loaded weapon.

When you present an object that only resembles a weapon as a weapon, it becomes a weapon.

Later,
Chrome...
 
Into the kitchen and out the back door (if available) and he can figure out how to open the cash register himself.
 
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