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Police trade in 1100s?

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auschip

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Local store has 5 or 6 Remington 1100 police trade-ins in 12g. Price seemed decent, and I know the 1100 is a soft shooter (relatively speaking). Problem is I have generally been a Winchester shotgun guy (101, 97, and a model 50 respectively). Would it be worth picking one up, as a general all purpose booger gun (in the parlance of my niece, that's a gun used against burglers - sometimes also known as a feefgun).

I was thinking the 1100 loaded with some reduced recoil buck might be a useful knockaround shotgun. Thoughts?
 
I think it depends entirely upon what your needs are and most importantly, the price.

I don't have any need for an 1100, especially since my range doesn't want me hitting their steel, even with birdshot. I'd pick one up if I saw one in the configuration I wanted for less than $350 or so.
 
1100 is not just a soft shooter "relatively speaking."

There's no reason to use reduced-recoil ammo. If you can heft the 12 Gauge, recoil will be a non-issue with normal ammo.

My 12 Gauge has a hard buttplate, and I don't feel it when I fire it.

Get extra O-rings, clean and oil it, and it's good for a long, long time.
 
While I'd snap up an 870 police trade in without a second thought I'd be a little more wary about an 1100. First I'd check the piston seals for cracks or corrosion. These are the metal parts that fit over the magazine tube and operate the action.

In addition to getting spare O-rings I'd also buy a new link. This is the Y-shaped spring that fits in behind the bolt and extends back into the stock. With extended use these can shorten and even break. If they break the gun is out of action until it's taken down and the part replaced.

It doesn't mean that I wouldn't buy an 1100 at a good price. I'd just give it a closer check than I might an 870.
 
I wouldn't hesitate to buy a police trade in 1100. Like most LEO firearms, they're carried a lot and shot little. The 1100 is a simple and robust design. It is easy and cheap to fix almost anything that would go wrong with one.

About the O-ring - bought one as a spare last year for a 20ga skeet model. About 4000 rounds later, it still doesn't need the ring.

If the price is right and it fills a perceived need, snap it up!
 
Went and looked at them again, price was $229. It wasn't anything special, but seemed like a solid firearm. I decided not to go for it, at least not yet. I may go look at them again, and talk myself into it, but we shall see.
 
I'd love to buy one for anything near that price! If they have an online store or ship, I'd appreciate the info via PM or otherwise-thanks.

Cruc
 
If you buy the 1100, you might be better off to load with full power Express loads. We've seen a lot of malfunctions in 1100s with the low recoil "tactical" rounds.
 
Mas is correct of course.

1100 is a fine gun!

Mas also brings to light something "we" have harped about a lot.

Guns are designed to run on certain ammo. At the time the guns were designed, they did not have 'reduced recoil' or loadings such as 7/8 oz loads or even 1oz loads.

Gun is not going to run with something it was not designed to run on. 1100s, Winchester 1400s, Beretta 303s...Does not matter if clay games, hunting, or Promo Ammo for training class, or reduced loads for a training class.

One HAS to use what the gun is designed to run. Check to make SURE ammo runs in gun, and Pattern YOUR gun for patterns and slug groups in order to have an effective tool - the shotgun.

It does not matter what the fellow down the street says, a box of ammo says, or what everyone is using. Just a starting point, Now TEST for YOUrself to know.

Now Trainers like Mas Ayoob, Awerbuck and others, see a LOT more guns, and LOT more Ammo than most folks, so Listen to them for suggestions.

Just like clay shooters can share what they see running the circuit. Some clay shooters shoot 20K + rounds a year themselves, not to mention what they see fellow shooters shoot.

Mas, Awerbuck and others - shoot and see a lot more than most folks do for serious shotgun use.

As Awerbuck says " Gonna be your gunfight, I am not going to be there".

One more thing. Gas Guns as part of the design includes Dwell Time. Short laymans version is - DO NOT shorten barrel on a gas gun just to be cool!
DO NOT mess with ports for any reason, recoil, to shoot a certain loading.

Only a Qualified GunSmith should mess with this.

You mess with barrel, ports to shoot a "reduced recoil" and that same gun MIGHT glitch with Full Power Loads.

Messing with something will get you dead. Bad enough a gas gun won't shoot hunting loads, or clay loads or ...

Mess with a Serious Use firearm and not know what you are doing and Dead is Dead.

Just had to toss this out for readers thinking about messing and tweaking. Don't.
 
I have a new 1100 and it won't cycle with reduced recoil rounds of the buckshot and slug persuation.

S&B 12 pellet 00 buck and S&B 1oz Special slugs work great along with Wolf slugs and buckshot. They all cycle my 1100 perfect with minimal felt recoil. I have put 100+ rounds of S&B buckshot and 100+ S&B slugs down range with a problem. Plus the S&B 12 pellet 00 buck patterns the best of all the buck I've shot.

If the buckshot or slug have around or more than 1250 fps it should cycle the action with out a problem.
 
While not a 1100, I picked up a Police trade-in 11-87 Police last month for $409 OTD.

It shoots Federal Tactical 00 Buck and Winchester Ranger slugs.

Heck, I've even used it to shoot a 3-point buck with it.

Steve
 
A kit with the complete gas system parts for the 1100 costs about $10.00. A Dremel with a small wire brush dipped in a gun cleaner can be used to remove carbon buildup on the piston and piston seal. Do it once and the $10 seems trivial.

Of course Mas is right about avoiding low recoil loads in the 1100. It isn't made for them and, I recall, Remington says so in the owner's manual and/or in a FAQ on its web site. SM's wisdom about trusting suggestions from Massad Ayoob and other true professionals is worth heeding, by the way.
 
Sorry, I was out of town the last couple of days visiting the niece and nephew. I ended up picking one up, everything looked good when I opened it up. The store was GT Distributing, they sell on gunbroker, so I don't think they would have an issue shipping. One thing to note, they are not open on the weekends, so you would need to give them a call on Monday.

The pickings where kinda slim on Thursday, but they did have a bunch of the Remington model 12 (which I believe was the forefather to the 1100). Will try and put up pictures later tonight.
 
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They did have 1100s, but they had sold most of them when I bought this one. Most of them came from the Hurst, TX police department.
 
Just an update. I was able to run 3-4 different types of ammo through it the other week and it ran like a top. I had brought it out to show some buddies while we were shooting some 5 stand. A couple of the guys suggested that the short barrel wasn't good for much other then house work, so we placed a little side wager. Heck, they even let me load all 5 shots, seeing as I had a handicap. I used the cash along with my poker winnings to buy a little .22 pistol I had my eye on. Not bad at all. :evil:
 
"About the O-ring - bought one as a spare last year for a 20ga skeet model. About 4000 rounds later, it still doesn't need the ring."

I've heard about 1100 O-rings being fragile, but...my wife put probably 10K rounds through her first 1100, and it never needed a new O-ring. Her new 1100 has maybe 1000 rounds on it, and no problems. I think people either damage the O-rings removing them, or clean them with a solvent which does. I've always used WD-40, then wipe it completely dry.
 
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