policeman killed in manchester

[Art Eatman]

Gee, Gary, not only are we going back to medieval armor, we're going back to the style of 1939-1941, but now maybe sending vests instead of rifles to Merrye Olde Blighty.

Why does the phrase "slow learner" keep coming to mind?

, Art

 

[cordex]

Agricola,

its at times like this I wish we still had the death penalty

Yes, it is terrible, but why is the murder of a police officer more deserving of the death penalty than the murder of any other innocent human?

Igor,

Nowadays modern bullet-proof will defeat edged weapons very well.

Maybe some of the modern bullet-resistant armor, but certainly not the majority that I've come in contact with.
Last body armor I owned was 1999 mfg Second Chance IIA which specifically stated that it was not stab resistant.

 

[Bog]

Yes, it is terrible, but why is the murder of a police officer more deserving of the death penalty than the murder of any other innocent human?

Thank you, Cordex, for once more cutting to the quick.

We had two young girls murdered last year by a couple of people, one of whom was working for a local school. Oh, we had horror, we had sadness..... but nothing like this. And nothing like the two women who were shot, for that matter, but they seem to have somewhat fallen by the wayside with this bobby stabbed by alleged tangoes.

Agricola, I am sorry you've lost a fellow officer. I am sorry when any human life is lost. But have you seen the news, and the talk in parliament recently?

The armed gendemerié which you said you so didn't want looks to be forced on us regardless of anyone's wishes, the same way Vicar Tony is dragging us into war with Iraq.

*sighs*

Can't help but notice that it's a lot more important when one of yours gets slain than one of ours.

Ours equalling civillians, in case nobody noticed.

 

[jmbg29]

You'd be surprised at the difference in public opinion when the suspects being rounded up are terrorists making WMDs instead of, say, a vacationing family and their dog.

You might also be surprised that some folks would expect that information gleaned from a known crime scene - the Ricin apt./lab - would have a much greater likelihood of producing more actual dangerous felons. Therefore, plenty of (armored) police would be advisable.

Some of us lend zero to no credence to anonymous hysterical phone calls that describe scenes that could have any number of logical, non-criminal, causes. We would tend to approach such scenes with great skepticism, relying on our situational awareness skills to escalate the level of perceived threat only[I/] if it became necessary.

Then again, critical thinking skills, situational awareness, common sense and discernment are almost totally passe. Hence we have some police that ignore warnings of the presence of pet dogs, and other police that leap into the midst of known two-legged mad dogs unarmed and clue free.

The end product in both cases is senseless and tragic.

:banghead:

 

[jmbg29]

Ours equalling civillians, in case nobody noticed.

Noticed about 227 years ago.