rangerruck
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no way any of those listed below the cz are more accurate than the cz... and i doubt the remmy can run with it either, or the savage 10.
Poll: Most Accurate Heavy Barrel Bolt Gun
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possum
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of course folks are gonna say the remington 700 because that is what they know. i picked the savage model 10 and here is why. i am a guy all about value, the savage is a great rifle, highly accurate, with a great trigger, and can be had at a great price. that rifle and a super sniper 10x would make a deadly accurate, reliable, combo that would serve you well.
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My Browning M1000 Eclipse in a .270WSM is a shooter for sure but a good bit more $$$ then $600(kinda big for varmints I know). My brother in law put a box of shells through it at 100 yds and had a grouping that could be covered by a quarter. I was shooting squirrel targets at 200 yds and put 3 rds in the front shoulder and 3 in it's head and I am by no means a good shot at the range. At 100yds 3 shot groups usually yield a clover leaf or better depending on who is pulling the trigger, I'm convinced it is as accurate as the guy behind it and much more capable then me for sure. Can't wait to put a decent scope on it, an $90 3-9X40 swift isn't doing it justice
Don't Tread On Me
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Savage 10
Savage 12
Remington 700
CZ 550 Varmint
Tikka T3
Ruger M77
Howa 1500
Weatherby Vanguard
Howa and the Vanguard are the same rifle. They're decent, but rarely do owners report tack-driver performance. Ruger and the CZ can be hit or miss. These probably have the most beefy and solid actions of all the choices, but they don't have a reputation for always being very accurate. Like the Howa/Vanguard, sometimes you get a tack driver, but most of the time you get good hunting accuracy. That's what they're meant for anyway. Remington is always Remington. Is going to be accurate. Savage is going to be good too.
The key is stock. Whichever comes with the best stock is going to have an advantage. A Remington in a junk stock is not going to compete with a Savage in an HS or McMillan.
If you want to compare action/barrel only, then I would say Tikka is the best. It has the smoothest action, a good receiver, and the best barrel (Sako heavy barrel). Actually, the Tikka heavy barrel varmint comes with a pretty decent stock. It is free floated and stiff. The difference between the barrels that Sako puts on Sako and the Sako barrels that go on Tikkas is the Sako has a 5-shot 1moa guarantee. The Tikka is a 3-shot 1moa. 3-shot 1moa isn't that difficult for many quality rifles, but is still a great standard. 5-shot is much harder as those extra 2 shots almost always open up the group quite bit. Big difference between those two measures. But putting 3 shots into 1 minute isn't exactly small fries.
The 2nd best choices would be the Remington and the Savage. But both would need to be in quality stocks. Something freefloated for sure, some sort of bedding or bedding block preferred. Then you'd see them perform better.
Overall, the best barrel of that list would go to Tikka. The smoothest action would go to Tikka. The best factory stock by default (not counting Savage or Remington using HS Precision) goes to Tikka. Tikka also has the Sako trigger, so the Tikka will also have the best factory trigger which is adjustable in the 2-4lb range. Savage accutrigger is lighter, but it is spongy feeling and and has that stupid Glock-style safety bar on it. That alters the feel. Some like it, some hate it. Tikka has a great trigger and doesn't have to deal with that. Remington's X-mark trigger is a big improvement over the original, and it is very crisp, but still a 4-5lb trigger.
For me it was between the Tikka T3 varmint and the Remington. I chose the Remington ONLY because I planned on upgrading the trigger and stock to what I specifically wanted. Remington is the better gun for modding, upgrading and buying aftermarket stuff. However, the Tikka is a better rifle out of the box and has better barrel/action/trigger.
No upgrades and the choice is very clear - Tikka T3 Varmint. I may still buy one (in a different caliber) because it is a great gun. The only turn off is the cheesy plastic of the trigger guard and magazine. But it is a quality gun and very accurate.
My single favorite feature of the Tikka is the bolt lift. At 70 degrees, there's plenty of room for your fingers and you won't be tight up against the scope. Only the Weatherby Mark5 is better in that dept. Low bolt lift is underrated in my opinion.
Savage 12
Remington 700
CZ 550 Varmint
Tikka T3
Ruger M77
Howa 1500
Weatherby Vanguard
Howa and the Vanguard are the same rifle. They're decent, but rarely do owners report tack-driver performance. Ruger and the CZ can be hit or miss. These probably have the most beefy and solid actions of all the choices, but they don't have a reputation for always being very accurate. Like the Howa/Vanguard, sometimes you get a tack driver, but most of the time you get good hunting accuracy. That's what they're meant for anyway. Remington is always Remington. Is going to be accurate. Savage is going to be good too.
The key is stock. Whichever comes with the best stock is going to have an advantage. A Remington in a junk stock is not going to compete with a Savage in an HS or McMillan.
If you want to compare action/barrel only, then I would say Tikka is the best. It has the smoothest action, a good receiver, and the best barrel (Sako heavy barrel). Actually, the Tikka heavy barrel varmint comes with a pretty decent stock. It is free floated and stiff. The difference between the barrels that Sako puts on Sako and the Sako barrels that go on Tikkas is the Sako has a 5-shot 1moa guarantee. The Tikka is a 3-shot 1moa. 3-shot 1moa isn't that difficult for many quality rifles, but is still a great standard. 5-shot is much harder as those extra 2 shots almost always open up the group quite bit. Big difference between those two measures. But putting 3 shots into 1 minute isn't exactly small fries.
The 2nd best choices would be the Remington and the Savage. But both would need to be in quality stocks. Something freefloated for sure, some sort of bedding or bedding block preferred. Then you'd see them perform better.
Overall, the best barrel of that list would go to Tikka. The smoothest action would go to Tikka. The best factory stock by default (not counting Savage or Remington using HS Precision) goes to Tikka. Tikka also has the Sako trigger, so the Tikka will also have the best factory trigger which is adjustable in the 2-4lb range. Savage accutrigger is lighter, but it is spongy feeling and and has that stupid Glock-style safety bar on it. That alters the feel. Some like it, some hate it. Tikka has a great trigger and doesn't have to deal with that. Remington's X-mark trigger is a big improvement over the original, and it is very crisp, but still a 4-5lb trigger.
For me it was between the Tikka T3 varmint and the Remington. I chose the Remington ONLY because I planned on upgrading the trigger and stock to what I specifically wanted. Remington is the better gun for modding, upgrading and buying aftermarket stuff. However, the Tikka is a better rifle out of the box and has better barrel/action/trigger.
No upgrades and the choice is very clear - Tikka T3 Varmint. I may still buy one (in a different caliber) because it is a great gun. The only turn off is the cheesy plastic of the trigger guard and magazine. But it is a quality gun and very accurate.
My single favorite feature of the Tikka is the bolt lift. At 70 degrees, there's plenty of room for your fingers and you won't be tight up against the scope. Only the Weatherby Mark5 is better in that dept. Low bolt lift is underrated in my opinion.
Hey Don't Tread On Me,
Thanks for that post - it validated my decision. Now I just need to decide on new glass. I bought a Monarch 5x20-44 a month ago, but it sits on my .223 Savage FV. I suppose I could move it to the Tikka, as it's probably going to be the nicest scope I'll ever buy. But I'm also considering a Bushnell 4200 6x24 ($379), Bushnell 3200 7x21 ($309), or Super Sniper 16x ($299). Does anyone here have any opinions on those scopes for a new .308 Tikka Varmint?
Thanks for that post - it validated my decision. Now I just need to decide on new glass. I bought a Monarch 5x20-44 a month ago, but it sits on my .223 Savage FV. I suppose I could move it to the Tikka, as it's probably going to be the nicest scope I'll ever buy. But I'm also considering a Bushnell 4200 6x24 ($379), Bushnell 3200 7x21 ($309), or Super Sniper 16x ($299). Does anyone here have any opinions on those scopes for a new .308 Tikka Varmint?
i have both the remington vssf and a cz 527 kevlar both shoot great! ive also own a highly accurate winchester and have owned several cz's and all have shot good the only reason i didnt buy a tikka is the stock. it felt horrible and there is hardly aftermarket for it.
Don't Tread On Me
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Bushnell 4200 glass is totally underrated. I have a Monarch, and it is optically better than pretty much every other scope in its price class except for the 4200, which is about equal or slightly better. They're both great and differences are nitpicking.
The reason Bushnell's are not as popular is because 1. Bushnell scopes are long 2. Often heavy 3. Have very small adjustment range; therefore, are not popular among the long range shooters or the tacticoolers. So it gets a lot less talk online. It is really geared for being a hunting scope, not a tactical scope meant for clicking in a lot of drop and windage. They come in all different magnifications, but they are mostly higher magnification and varmint shooters and rimfire guys like them a lot.
The Rainguard is the real deal. Nice feature. Warranty is great too.
The reason Bushnell's are not as popular is because 1. Bushnell scopes are long 2. Often heavy 3. Have very small adjustment range; therefore, are not popular among the long range shooters or the tacticoolers. So it gets a lot less talk online. It is really geared for being a hunting scope, not a tactical scope meant for clicking in a lot of drop and windage. They come in all different magnifications, but they are mostly higher magnification and varmint shooters and rimfire guys like them a lot.
The Rainguard is the real deal. Nice feature. Warranty is great too.
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