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No real details, but apparently there are new Colt Pythons at distributors as we speak. Take with a grain of salt?
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Possible New Colt Pythons?
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AustinTX
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My expectations could hardly be lower. Colt couldn’t build a good one 15 years ago. Why will things be different now?
And that’s assuming they’ll even try to build an actual Python. More than likely they’ll go the same route as with the new so-called King Cobra and slap the Python name on a different design altogether.
And that’s assuming they’ll even try to build an actual Python. More than likely they’ll go the same route as with the new so-called King Cobra and slap the Python name on a different design altogether.
gotboostvr
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I'm not seeing anything anywhere else online. If he was privy to inside info I'm sure he would have had a NDA, which if he did he just violated and it's doubtful he'd ever get another.
I'd say it's just speculation and he wants to look like the guy that called it first.
I'd be happy if he was right however.
I'd say it's just speculation and he wants to look like the guy that called it first.
I'd be happy if he was right however.
ThomasT
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Yawn...
Old Dog
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Let's see where this one goes after 14 pages of speculation about a new (yawn) Glock.
I personally don't see it happening as there don't seem to be any secrets in the gun industry. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Anaconda resurrected, as the company had new machinery for that model, but they'd be starting over from scratch on a Python.
I've no experience with any of the relatively few Pythons produced by the custom shop between '96 and '05 (after regular production stopped) so I can't speak to the assertion that those weren't any good, but that doesn't seem to be a good reason to have low expectations. Certainly Colt stepped up its game in the 1911 arena over the past few years, as it did with the new Cobra line.
I personally don't see it happening as there don't seem to be any secrets in the gun industry. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Anaconda resurrected, as the company had new machinery for that model, but they'd be starting over from scratch on a Python.
I've no experience with any of the relatively few Pythons produced by the custom shop between '96 and '05 (after regular production stopped) so I can't speak to the assertion that those weren't any good, but that doesn't seem to be a good reason to have low expectations. Certainly Colt stepped up its game in the 1911 arena over the past few years, as it did with the new Cobra line.
Seriously doubt that. The Python was the flagship of the Colt line and even the current management of the company can't be that stupid to mess with such an iconic revolver (the King Cobra was not an icon). Even so, the new King Cobra is still worthy and one of the best new production revolvers being sold in my opinion.
NIGHTLORD40K
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The tooling may be worn, but it didnt just disappear. They may well still have the production capability, if not the experienced craftsmen, to produce legacy Pythons. We shall see.
If it was up to me, I would upscale the current medium-smallish Cobra frame, which seems to earn universal praise for its trigger action, into a medium-large platform for both a .44 (Anaconda) and .357 (Python, maybe a 7 or 8 shot?), give it a nice polish job, and sit back and count my money.....
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gotboostvr
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As much as I'd like a new Python, an Anaconda would be much more exciting. I think it would fill a bigger gap than another 357mag.
I'd find a way to add an Anaconda to my stable ASAP, the Python I'll get around to picking up eventually. I don't even care if it's a 45 or a 44 Anaconda.
I'd find a way to add an Anaconda to my stable ASAP, the Python I'll get around to picking up eventually. I don't even care if it's a 45 or a 44 Anaconda.
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As it was said earlier...”Yawn”.
The new Glock 44 is more exciting and I can’t even buy one in California.
What I think is funny and sad, is all this hubbub and hype over these new Colts made with MIM parts and inferior appearances compared to real Colts of old. All I heard from people a few years back was all the whining and crying over S&W revolvers made with dreaded MIM parts and inferior appearances. Gimme a break!
The new Glock 44 is more exciting and I can’t even buy one in California.
What I think is funny and sad, is all this hubbub and hype over these new Colts made with MIM parts and inferior appearances compared to real Colts of old. All I heard from people a few years back was all the whining and crying over S&W revolvers made with dreaded MIM parts and inferior appearances. Gimme a break!
Old Dog
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Add this statement to things I thought I'd never see posted in this forum (calling a new Glock "exciting" on the revolver forum -- another sign that the apocalypse is upon us).
Might I ask what your particular experience is with these "new Colts" is? Because I own some of these new colts (as well as a couple of the "old" Colts), and they're superior to what S&W is putting out these days. And I just happen to be a huge S&W revolver fan.
Newsflash: MIM is here to stay, not going anywhere soon, used in the car(s) you drive, the airliners you fly on, the computer you're perusing the forum on, and even the space shuttle ...
Pat Riot
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I do not gripe about MIM. I am a big fan of S&W revolvers. I just think it’s really silly that people kicked S&W in the teeth over the same practices Colt’s now uses and everyone seems to be falling all over themselves regarding these new Colts.
I have owned 2 Colts. A Combat Government and a 1991A1. The former far outshined the latter.
Colt’s quit selling ARs to “civilians” and they get a pass. If any other company would have done that there would be hell to pay in the gun world, but nope, not Colt’s.
Their quality has consistently gone down for years, except in their overpriced Custom Shop. But even in that arena they floundered and fired their best people for cost savings.
No, I won’t drink the Colt’s kool-aid again.
If the new Colts make you happy, that’s great. Enjoy them.
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If it is true, I sure hope that the new Pythons are built to a higher standard than the Cobra. The Cobra is not a bad gun, but certainly not of the quality of any of the older Colts our there. What is scary is what they would cost today if they are going to be hand fitted by true gunsmiths like the originals and not just mass assembled like 95% of the guns today.
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It's because the pony sells. I couldn't agree more with you btw.
If Colt comes out with a Python, It'll just be a beefed up, longer barreled new model King Cobra. Oh, and it will have a ribbed barrel and they'll charge $900+. Please. A 686 Deluxe for $775 gets my money. A used Dan Wesson 15-2 beats em all! Imo of course.
Long gone are the hand fitting days of Colt Pythons. Which was their appeal. And thier flaw. Again, imo.
CajunBass
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I hope they do introduce a new gun. I don't care if they call it a Python, or a garter snake. I just like seeing manufacturers introducing new revolvers, be it Colt, Kimber or Rock Island Arms. New revolvers mean the market hasn't completely been surrendered to black plastic semi-auto's.
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I don't doubt a new gun called a Python may be in the works. However, I doubt if they are currently at the distributors. I also doubt if they will have anything in common with the old Python other than the name.
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Speaking of fake news......
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I'm with you. It is hard to believe that Pythons are at distributors and only one person had said something to the public. The odds of keeping that news off the internet would be about like Miss America showing up at my door and taking me out to dinner with a Registered Magnum as a keepsake of the date.
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Exactly. There would be no benefit what so ever to quietly distributing a firearm that Colt fans have been craving for years. Marketing sells guns. A lack of marketing does not sell guns.
I can't figure out why anyone still listens to anything the Yankee Marshal says. Everything about him screams idiot shock jock.
CraigC
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I wouldn't hold my breath. We've had industry insiders like the late Denis Prisbrey tell us for years that there is no chance whatsoever the Python even 'could' return and be anything even remotely resembling "affordable".
You seem to have forgotten the third generation Single Action Army. Colt management was more than willing to mess with that "iconic revolver". I don't think we will see a new Python introduced. If we do it will be a Python in name only...and it will cost too much. (LOL)
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Yeah, I seem to recall Denis mentioning a few times that to make a new Python the way they were made back in the day would lead to an MSRP of something like $4000. The majority of folks interested in these guns aren't going to be willing to pay anywhere near that.
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If I was in the market for a Colt Python (which I'm not and never really have been), and a new one cost $4000, I would certainly be looking for a used one that was in decent shape and at a comparable price!
If I was in the market for a Colt Python (which I'm not and never really have been), and a new one cost $4000, I would certainly be looking for a used one that was in decent shape and at a comparable price!
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Me too.
Old Dog
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Not to further take this thread off track, but no, I haven't forgotten. I could bore you with my knowledge (much of which was acquired on the internet anyway) of the Peacemaker's evolution, but I won't. Colt was not "re-introducing" an entire line of revolvers; yes, there were changes made between the generations of SAA production, but retirements of the older Colt workers and quality control slippage were some major factors in the problems with the 3rd gen revolvers. There was more to it than that, of course, and the turnover and mismanagement of the company at the top has become legendary. Let's just wait and see how things turn out, shall we? -- before deciding to write off one of the truly great firearms manufacturers in our country's history. It seems to have become the new normal in America these days to not honor and respect institutions and traditions simply because the humans involved have made mistakes or we don't like their decisions.
And not to get farther down in the weeds about the company itself
I call that smart marketing. The AR market has been totally glutted, and for the first time in a while, Colt management makes a good decision and incurs nothing but derision, with everyone taking this personally because Colt stops making ARs for civilians? Sheesh.
Love this post.
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