Possible New Colt Pythons?

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Bill460 said:
Then you need to be more "choosy" when you start calling people, "You Tube morons". If you stop lumping everyone into the same derogatory category, who have all had issues with this POS, it won't take you 3 paragraphs to explain your way out of it.
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Gimme a break. It was a generalization. Pay attention to my wording. I didn't say that everyone on YouTube was a moron. I've been at this a long time and firmly believe in precision of language. I don't do snide, subtle or passive-aggressive. If I'm gonna call Hickok a moron, as long as it isn't contrary to the rules of THR, there won't be any ambiguity. You seem to be all about getting bent completely out of shape about everything.

I don't have to explain my way out of anything. Nor do I have to make a personal attack to make my point. Hint, hint..... ;)

All that said, Hickok is not a moron. He's one of the good ones and he usually gets it right. I think he does a lot of good for the industry. However, he is basically an entertainer. The information he provides is very basic and his testing is pedestrian. Very seat-of-the-pants. All done off his hind legs with factory ammo on reactive targets. Which is fine but he's a YouTube celebrity, which in no way puts him on the level with proper shooting industry journalists. People who have poured their entire adult life into it, with their ACTUAL name on the line with every word they write. It's really a damned shame that someone who just makes entertaining videos can make a better living than actual gun writers but such is the world we live in today. The world that gave us Justin Bieber and the Kardashians.
 
CraigC said:
Which is fine but he's a YouTube celebrity, which in no way puts him on the level with proper shooting industry journalists. People who have poured their entire adult life into it, with their ACTUAL name on the line with every word they write. It's really a damned shame that someone who just makes entertaining videos can make a better living than actual gun writers but such is the world we live in today. The world that gave us Justin Bieber and the Kardashians.
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You can say that again.
 
I'm not gonna worry about ONE with a "hitch in it;s getalong" as my grandma used to say. Sorry colt let one get through the net. Can't wait to try one out. still hoping they make a 3 inch
 
https://gunnersden.com/are-there-problems-with-the-colt-2020-python-interview-video/
Most recent interview - YESTERDAY p.m. with Colt rep (VP).

As far as the alleged "letter" from Colt, still not been verified that it's not a fake. Simply a re-typed letter, computer screen-shot, with no contact information or signature, not typical of the kind of communication the company sends out, no provenance.

Speaking of referring to other members in a derogatory manner, Coal Dragger, you can quit using the term "apologists." Getting old. No one is calling you names.
 
Targa said:
This quote in the interview you posted made me drool a little bit, “and we also heard the name “Anaconda” get mentioned.”
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I will say that personally, an Anaconda doesn't hold as much interest for me. In my little world, .357 is a nice round that I can load to med/hot ranges and still enjoy shooting. 44 magnum is something I run through my Super Redhawk and I make loads that will bruise my palm. I'd be afraid to really push an Anaconda like that.
 
Targa said:
That makes sense. Honestly, I just love .44mag but would download it a bit for anything but my Ruger SBH.

Anaconda or Python....one day I am going to have one of them..:D
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I have a few 38 special revolvers, I bought a 627 "pro" and was shooting both 38 and 357 through it until I had a local gunsmith lighten it up so I could use it for 38 spcl steel ringing. I mounted a nice Burris FFIII on it and haven't shot .357 since. At the moment, I don't have a .357 revolver (not really), so the Python is something I'd really be interested in.
 
Old Dog said:
As far as the alleged "letter" from Colt, still not been verified that it's not a fake.
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it was originally posted on Colt forum, in the topic "Python 2020", and later it was discovered that the profile was fake (user was NOT a Colt representative) and the said letter was a fake one also. This discussion, right here on the THR, proves one more time the immortal words of Abraham Lincoln, that:

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CraigC said:
....... he's a YouTube celebrity, which in no way puts him on the level with proper shooting industry journalists. People who have poured their entire adult life into it, with their ACTUAL name on the line with every word they write. It's really a damned shame that someone who just makes entertaining videos can make a better living than actual gun writers but such is the world we live in today.
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Oh for God's sake, give me a break! Are you serious? Who do you think these gun writers are, some kind of chosen God's? These guys give as reliable of gun reviews, as Motor Trend does on cars. You read a review in "Guns & Ammo" on a new Ruger firearm. And right next to it, on the opposing page, is a Ruger full page color ad. And you actually think they're going to give you an unbiased, objective opinion? Or say anything derogatory? They wouldn't dare. They're not that stupid.

I've been reading most all these gun rags since 1963, when I bought my first one. They are all becoming more worthless every day. These gun writers are paid far more than any of them are worth. Even Garry James admitted in several conversations, that gun writers feel enormous pressure from their advertisers. How in the hell are you going to get any type of honest, objective evaluation on ANY gun with that financial monkey hanging on your back? You're not. And I don't give a damn what they know, or think they know.

Hickok 45 doesn't have a vested interest in any firearms company or advertising. Federal, and some others send him ammo. He loads and shoots the guns. You see first hand what happens. If a problem comes up, like it did when the Python he was shooting crapped out, you see it. If it runs well, you see that. He is far more valuable with information, then what any of these so called "gun writers" put out. He also gets and tests off the rack guns that are sent to distributors and dealers. Same as you and I buy. Luck of the draw. Not samples that have been gone through, and double checked before they send them to the major gun rags for "testing".

If I'm buying a certain gun, Hickok is the first guy I'll search. I want to see that gun in action. That's all I need to form any type of buy / don't buy opinion. He doesn't do accuracy tests, because that's not what he's about. He's all about function and reliability. He runs all the guns he shoots much harder than I would ever run mine.

On the other hand, remember when that useless idiot Dick Metcalf shot off his mouth about gun control, and how he believed there should be restrictions and regulations on the Second Amendment? I do. I called Guns & Ammo, like thousands of others did, and cancelled my subscription. That stupid SOB had the Brady Campaign praising him! They finally threw his worthless ass right out the door. G&A's advertisers demanded it. They never should have hired the horses ass in the first place.

Or how about that idiotic fool Jim Zumbo. Outdoor Life's big, "hunting editor"...... Until he stuck his foot in his mouth sideways. Spouting off about how, "Military-style rifles were, “terrorist” weapons, best avoided by hunters". It ended up costing him his job. Good riddance!

Or that professional jackass Jerry Tsai, the past editor of Recoil magazine. That moron wrote that the Heckler & Koch MP7A1, designed for law enforcement, was, “unavailable to civilians and for good reason.” Are you kidding me! Out the door his ass went.

These fools are the people you admire in the gun industry? Because they, "poured their entire adult life into it". We would have all been better off if they drove a garbage truck for a living.

And these are the guys you like to refer to as, "proper shooting industry journalists". Don't make me laugh.
 
Mizar said:
...... it was originally posted on Colt forum, in the topic "Python 2020", and later it was discovered that the profile was fake (user was NOT a Colt representative) and the said letter was a fake one also.
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Can you link us to that information? Not to the Colt Forum. But to something that shows, and or proves the letter is fake?
 
Bill460 said:
These gun writers are paid far more than any of them are worth. Even Garry James admitted in several conversations, that gun writers feel enormous pressure from their advertisers. How in the hell are you going to get any type of honest, objective evaluation on ANY gun with that financial monkey hanging on your back? You're not. And I don't give a damn what they know, or think they know.
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You're not that well informed. This just isn't true. You would be underwhelmed if you knew what magazines pay for articles. It's not intellectually honest to lump all gunwriters together.
 
MaxP said:
It's not intellectually honest to lump all gunwriters together.
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The hell it isn't true. Besides it doesn't matter. You're not going to get an honest evaluation out of ANY of them. I don't give a damn who they are, or who they write for.

"Reporters and editors say that reviews are often written in close consultation with manufacturers. If a gun is judged to be of poor quality, magazines will quietly send it back for improvements rather than writing a negative review. The system is broadly accepted at these publications, gun writers say."

If that's how you like to get your information on firearms, be my guest.
 
Bill460 said:
The hell it isn't true. Besides it doesn't matter. You're not going to get an honest evaluation out of ANY of them. I don't give a damn who they are, or who they write for.

"Reporters and editors say that reviews are often written in close consultation with manufacturers. If a gun is judged to be of poor quality, magazines will quietly send it back for improvements rather than writing a negative review. The system is broadly accepted at these publications, gun writers say."

If that's how you like to get your information on firearms, be my guest.
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So you’re basically calling me a liar.
 
MaxP said:
So you’re basically calling me a liar.
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You believe everything the Colt reps tell you. You believe everything the gun writers tell you. Who all happen to be paid through advertising by the gun industry...... And then you dismiss a guy who shoots off the shelf guns on video, and reports on what happened. With no other bias. Because you think he is simply, "entertainment".

You're not a liar in the true sense of the word. You just put your faith in the wrong people. And we wonder why it's become so easy to separate people from their money these days. All they have to do is read this thread. They'll understand perfectly why and how.
 
Mizar said:
https://www.coltforum.com/forums/python/370319-python-2020-a-91.html
Post #906 is the begging - start from there.

https://www.coltforum.com/forums/python/371445-sounds-like-fake-news.html
Look here also - thread specific to debunking of the "Colt letter".

P.S. Copy & paste of parts of the text is all I did in Google and it showed up as the top results... I'm done with this.
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That's it? THAT'S your bona fides? Some Colt fanboy typing in big red caps, <<<<<"SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS ALL FAKE NEWS!">>>>>

Got it! :thumbup:
 
Did you even read some of the original thread - the first link I provided? Or it's something that is not correlating with your agenda so you just ignore it... And let me get something straight - I'm not doing this for you, but for the other forum members who might be fooled from the false claims and exaggerations you make. Arguing with you and presenting facts to you is pointless. Like I said - I'm done here.
 
Mizar said:
.......I'm not doing this for you, but for the other forum members who might be fooled from the false claims and exaggerations you make.
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Show me one false claim or exaggeration I have made. One. And look through this thread. I've provided far more links to back up what I've said, than all the B.S. you've put forth. I've waded through as much of that thread as I could stomach. It's the same as this one. A bunch of Colt fanboys who attack anything and everyone who doesn't genuflect in front of the prancing pony. I've had my sugar intake for the entire month.
 
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