Yea right, all politicians can at times abuse laws if it fits their purpose, it's why we have to be careful about passing them in the first place.This morning Hugh Hewitt said that "red flag" laws would not be abused.
Only when it fits their purpose.....oh yea, that's most of the time.....And politicians don't lie ... right?
It doesn't make any sense. Pass UBC and stuff like this will still happen so we'll need more laws. Pass magazine capacity restrictions and stuff like this will still happen. Ban Assault rifles and stuff like this will still happen. 2/3rds of often quoted 30,000 gun deaths per are suicides. You'll have to ban everything up to and including single shot pistols to make any impact on that number. Passing more gun laws isn't going to stop gang violence.
But, but, but we need to do something....! There are a lot of people out there with no interest in guns so making it harder to own guns, banning magazines, banning features on guns will make no difference to them at all. Passing ineffective laws will allow them to feel better for at least a couple of minutes...
Who are you quoting?".... I can't say I oppose it either." What low-down, cowardly Democrat do you shill for? Just take all of your dirty, nasty guns -- if you really own any, which is extremely doubtful -- and carry them all down to your local police station and turn them in. That will fix the problem of at least one unstable, mentally impaired person having access to firearms.
This statement, I am sure will not be sufficient god some in power but it shows that Trump is looking at the acts versus the the guns
FROM THE ARTICLE:
“Mental illness and hatred pulls the trigger, not the gun," Trump said, going on to call for red-flag laws to allow the seizure of firearms from those judged to pose a grave risk to public safety.
This is from this article: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-shootings-remarks.amp
The statement below sends chills up my back.
FROM THE ARTICLE:
"We must do a better job at identifying and acting on early warning signs," Trump said. "I am directing the Department of Justice to work in partnership with local, state, and federal agencies and social media companies to develop tools to identify mass shooters before they strike."
Imagine you are here on The High Road or another pro gun or shooting forum and you receive an updated “Users Agreement”, or whatever it may be called, telling you that everything you say may be monitored by the government. Or worse, you get into an argument with someone online or have a disagreement only to find your actions have gotten the attention of a Federal or local law enforcement or justice bureaucrat.
It doesn’t take many of the wrong words to make someone look like a threat...
Of course there was backlash to Trump’s speech. What he said didn’t follow “the agenda”.
The most important aspect of this is whatever gun control bills are proposed we all need to hammer on them hard and bombard our reps with emails/letters/calls (whatever you prefer). We've done a really good job of defeating additional gun control bills that they hurl at us one after the other, whatever comes in the near future will have to be dealt with the same way. Even more so by individuals with the chaos going on in the NRA (maybe that chaos won't affect their ILA branch at the moment).
News flash.
The government has been monitoring internet, email, cellphone, social media, texting traffic etc. for a long time, certainly after 9/11 attack.
Can't confirm this but when I worked in IT as support project manager for a pilot program, I got the feeling and notion that many companies, like Microsoft, are required to monitor and forward to DHS any red flags they detect to ensure the safety and security of USA.
Don't worry, if you are typical gun enthusiast and post on THR, you are likely "grouped" with other pro-gun/2A patriots than those posting on social media that they are going to kill people with repeated hateful rant which will immediately trigger a red flag.
This morning Hugh Hewitt said that "red flag" laws would not be abused.
Somebody ought to ask him if he feels the same way about the FISA courts...
Yea right, all politicians can at times abuse laws if it fits their purpose, it's why we have to be careful about passing them in the first place.
That's too extreme and severely harms any home owner or conceal carrier who may need to defend themselves. 5 rds is not a lot, especially when Antifa attacks in groups and most burglaries have multiple home invaders.Magazines/feeds limited to 5 rounds maximum in ALL FIREARMS. All other magazine will become illegal to own or possess. No grandfathering.
This is my guess. It allows owners to keep there firearms, for now.
Oh, I agree, but I look at the situation and see that it's either nothing happens, which is only going to motivate the anti gun side and make their reaction when they take power in the future even worse, Congress and Trump have a knee jerk reaction and cave in to them now, or we find some kind of middle ground.I don' like the idea of giving up any rights any time for any reason, unless I break the law.
I understand that most studies have shown that gun control reduces suicide rates by firearm, but not overall suicide rates.
So, you are OK with a little bit of tyranny and infringement? What happens when that doesn't work and they want more?Oh, I agree, but I look at the situation and see that it's either nothing happens, which is only going to motivate the anti gun side and make their reaction when they take power in the future even worse, Congress and Trump have a knee jerk reaction and cave in to them now, or we find some kind of middle ground.
I'd rather see a semi auto ban for those under 25 than an outright semi auto ban for everyone of all ages.
We have a problem in the Pro 2A community where we're obsessed with pitching a perfect game, lose focus on the big picture, and wind up giving a home run to the other side because we were looking for perfection when limiting the other side to singles doesn't get them as far as they think.
And, I will take some heat for this, but I despise the Disgusting Video games that I have seen. When I first saw my son playing one, with the violence and killing on a stupid game. I took him aside and had a long talk with him.
There is pretty solid evidence that the press coverage of the El Paso shooter - apparently a white supremacist - is what triggered the Dayton shooter - an extreme leftist, according to his web accounts.
So, is the press responsible for either or both shootings?
Is politics and politicians the cause?
How about insanity and stupidity?
Maybe all of the above?
MORE sheesh! Expecting politicians (which are the mature form of lawyers) to effectively end a cause of crime and litigation is like expecting carnivores to ban the consumption of meat.Sheesh, some of these folks think that they can wave a magic wand and all the guns will go away. What they don't realize is that the problem resides in the human heart, and not in the gun store. Until governments are able to do what God alone can we will continue to have these problems and there isn't a single law that they can pass to change things.