Most of the guns that I have bought were clean and all of the guns that I sell are clean. One stainless steel Ruger Vaquero that I bought was dirty and the gun show table operator just schrugged his shoulders and said, "It's stainless, why clean it?" I'll bet if he had a DeLoren he would wash it. I have passed on some dirty guns. poppy
Public Announcement ...Clean your gun when you sell it!
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Zach S
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Personally, I dont mind buying a dirty gun. I clean them when I buy them, doesnt matter of they're new or used. I've got a few that were dirty, however its a safe bet that its was a lot cleaner than whatever gun I had on me at the time.
I dont bother cleaning mine until they're so filthy that a lot people here wouldn't trust it. But I do clean them before they're sold or traded.
I dont bother cleaning mine until they're so filthy that a lot people here wouldn't trust it. But I do clean them before they're sold or traded.
I've always found it mind boggleing that people don't take the time to do little things like that before selling an item. If 99% of people won't get a $20 car wash to get an extra $500 out of a used car dealer, then why would you expect them to clean a gun before selling it.
Anyhow, I'd rather buy a dirty gun, cause I can always use the line, "well, I like the gun, but I'm not sure its worth what your asking because the owner may have abused it because he didn't clean it." That will usually knock off another $50.
Anyhow, I'd rather buy a dirty gun, cause I can always use the line, "well, I like the gun, but I'm not sure its worth what your asking because the owner may have abused it because he didn't clean it." That will usually knock off another $50.
There is a pic over at Oleg's gallery to this effect.
http://www.olegvolk.net/gallery/arms/tupperware
Maybe I'm weird but I love to buy dirty guns.
The prices are usually better and when I get them home it gives me an excuse to try out some new fangled cleaning supplies.
How in the heck am I going to know if my new copper solvent works unless I have a copper fouled gun?
I also love taking really filthy guns outside on my back porch to blast them with gun scrubber. I try to do it when the neighbors are having their little clickish neighborhood association get togethers.
The prices are usually better and when I get them home it gives me an excuse to try out some new fangled cleaning supplies.
How in the heck am I going to know if my new copper solvent works unless I have a copper fouled gun?
I also love taking really filthy guns outside on my back porch to blast them with gun scrubber. I try to do it when the neighbors are having their little clickish neighborhood association get togethers.
I clean my guns every time I shoot them. I also go over them everytime I sell one (I hate selling but whaddya gonna do sometimes). If a gun is dirty I refuse to buy it because that tells me how that person treated the gun while they owned it. Although it is awkward to field strip a gun in front of a salesman, makes em nervous. I take my business to the people that have no problem with a good lookover.
Never look a gift horse in the mouth, but if your buying a gun always look it in the mouth....
Never look a gift horse in the mouth, but if your buying a gun always look it in the mouth....
axeman_g
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ok ...
different points of view. I agree with buying a dirty used gun, but not in the 1k price area.
I just bought a filthy, crud infested a5 because I started cleaning it in the shop, saw the beauty and swept in. It gives you the feeling of finding a jewel in the rough.
I am mainly talking about marketing as I a believe a spotless inventory will move faster (dont see dirty cars at good auto dealers). I was disapointed in the 870, because the emails were all "gun is in excellent shape". Dealer did BS me a bit.
Note to self ... dont buy from Kfranz or RHL LEE
different points of view. I agree with buying a dirty used gun, but not in the 1k price area.
I just bought a filthy, crud infested a5 because I started cleaning it in the shop, saw the beauty and swept in. It gives you the feeling of finding a jewel in the rough.
I am mainly talking about marketing as I a believe a spotless inventory will move faster (dont see dirty cars at good auto dealers). I was disapointed in the 870, because the emails were all "gun is in excellent shape". Dealer did BS me a bit.
Note to self ... dont buy from Kfranz or RHL LEE
I actually look for dirty, beat up looking guns when I walk the gun shows. If the price is right I'll buy them, take them home and a couple of hours of work they look near new again. All it takes is a little work, some wood finish and maybe some cold blue. Some of these I keep, some I sell. I have yet to lose money when I resell and I usually make some money this way to.
mindpilot
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to me its like selling a car. Did you wash it or steam clean the engine ($1.89) can at WallyWorld before the buyer came to look at it? Makes huge impression difference.
to me its like selling a car. Did you wash it or steam clean the engine ($1.89) can at WallyWorld before the buyer came to look at it? Makes huge impression difference.
artherd
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I rarely clean most of my firearms.
Precision rifles will get all forign dirt and the like whiped off, and some very light oiling every now and again. (only thing down the bore will be a DRY boresnake if I feel like it.) ARs get whiped out approximately when I feel like it. (not often since you can just shoot clp in and go 10krounds)
I haven't cleaned my Glock 34 since I bought it, outside of a wipe-down fully assembled. Has somewhere around 10,000rounds through it and doesn't need any cleaning.
Frankly with non-corrosive smokeless powder, many people do more harm than good by cleaning.
Precision rifles will get all forign dirt and the like whiped off, and some very light oiling every now and again. (only thing down the bore will be a DRY boresnake if I feel like it.) ARs get whiped out approximately when I feel like it. (not often since you can just shoot clp in and go 10krounds)
I haven't cleaned my Glock 34 since I bought it, outside of a wipe-down fully assembled. Has somewhere around 10,000rounds through it and doesn't need any cleaning.
Frankly with non-corrosive smokeless powder, many people do more harm than good by cleaning.
I used to think total firearm disassembly and cleaning were fun.
I put way too much wear on my guns. Luckily they were Rugers and could take it.
Nowadays I boresnake, wipe the bolt face with a rag, take a well used silicone cloth to wipe down the perspiration and put some protectant on the outside of the gun.
Tomcat1066
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Personally, I kind of feel like I have to field strip a weapon and clean it shortly after I buy it. Not just because they usually need it, but because it gives me a chance to get to know the gun. The more I know it, the better I know it, and the better I feel about it being in my hands.
But I'm probably wierd in that way
Tom
But I'm probably wierd in that way
Tom
Thin Black Line
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The US has become a gas-n-go throwaway society. Abused dirty guns
are not a surprise when people don't even bother to maintain their cars
costing 100 times more.
are not a surprise when people don't even bother to maintain their cars
costing 100 times more.
Agreed, cleaning is half the fun
I always enjoyed returning to home, taking my firearm apart, clean, dry, lube, wipe down and lock away. I guess these non-cleaners probably think the only hunmt is when they harvest game.
I also agree that you should negotiate a deal if dirty. For certain the gun has been neglected (Which equals abuse) and will eventually effect its function. Besides, if the firearm store hasn't broken it down, cleaned it, examined it, made needed repairs, then IMHO, they haven't performed the majority of the functions for which they justify selling you the firearm at a marked up price. The last pistol I saw purchased by Gander Mountain went from hand to showcase, no inspection, no cleaning, nothing.
Doc2005
I always enjoyed returning to home, taking my firearm apart, clean, dry, lube, wipe down and lock away. I guess these non-cleaners probably think the only hunmt is when they harvest game.
I also agree that you should negotiate a deal if dirty. For certain the gun has been neglected (Which equals abuse) and will eventually effect its function. Besides, if the firearm store hasn't broken it down, cleaned it, examined it, made needed repairs, then IMHO, they haven't performed the majority of the functions for which they justify selling you the firearm at a marked up price. The last pistol I saw purchased by Gander Mountain went from hand to showcase, no inspection, no cleaning, nothing.
Doc2005
mindpilot
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hobby
I clean my knives like I do my guns. And 99% of my knives I dont use. I just like to see them clean, nice appearance. I have over 2000 knives of all variety's and its a cool feeling like it is with my guns to handle them. Maybe I am narotic, but hey if I had a Harley I would prolly park it in my living room and be the same way.
I clean my knives like I do my guns. And 99% of my knives I dont use. I just like to see them clean, nice appearance. I have over 2000 knives of all variety's and its a cool feeling like it is with my guns to handle them. Maybe I am narotic, but hey if I had a Harley I would prolly park it in my living room and be the same way.
axeman_g said:
I can count on one hand with fingers left over the # of firearms I've sold in the last 10 years. Making some assumptions about your personality from your post, I doubt you'd be interested even if I sold for a living. If you were interested though, provided your reading comprehension skills are at a 7th grade or better level, you would be properly informed of the condition.
That's right up there with the most foolish things I've seen posted on an internet site.
Jeff Timm
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Back in the good ol' days, a guy I worked with in an Army Maintenance unit had a neighbor who had the FFL at a Gibson's store in TX.
He made good money on the side cleaning up the surplus rifles as they arrived. He also did the grading and the "hand selecting." If it sold at the hand selected price, he split the difference with the dealer.
Why can't I get gigs like that.
Geoff
Whose neighbors at the time were in bunks in the same room.
He made good money on the side cleaning up the surplus rifles as they arrived. He also did the grading and the "hand selecting." If it sold at the hand selected price, he split the difference with the dealer.
Why can't I get gigs like that.
Geoff
Whose neighbors at the time were in bunks in the same room.
Rich K
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Any gun I sell or trade is spotless and shiny.the first time I sold a gun at a dealer,I was told" It is pretty obvious you take care of your guns."And I won't buy a used gun until it is cleaned and I can get a good lok at it,inside and out.Just my .02.
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