Question about parting out a gun

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I have a "bag gun" that I am never going to do anythinng with. It's a FEG AP66 (Walther clone) in .32 acp. I was going to put the mag and the grips on eBay and sell them. I was planning to just offer the parts out to people on this board and other boards for free.

My (probably really dumb) questions are...

I have always heard that the part that "counts" as the firearm is the frame. However, the serial number on this gun is on the slide - the frame has no serial numbers. I am not reallyinterested in transferring the gun to anyone. So which part counts as the gun? If I give all the other parts away, what do I DO with the part that counts? I presume I don't just throw it in the trash.

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The serial numbered bit is the firearm (ruger MK series 22 "uppers" are the firearms, for example).

If you don't want to sell it, cut it in half or use it as a fishing sinker or something.
 
The serial numbered bit is the firearm (ruger MK series 22 "uppers" are the firearms, for example).

If you don't want to sell it, cut it in half or use it as a fishing sinker or something.
Not according to the legal Federal definition. Serial number is never mentioned in the definition of a firearm.

18 USC 921:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/921

(3) The term “firearm” means
(A) any weapon (including a starter gun) which will or is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive;
(B) the frame or receiver of any such weapon;
(C) any firearm muffler or firearm silencer; or
(D) any destructive device. Such term does not include an antique firearm.

I don't see serial number mentioned anywhere in that definition.
 
I found the number on the frame, very faintly under a coat of alumahyde. They match the numbers on the left side of the slide under the ejection port.. It was behind the trigger guard.
 
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Yup, that should be your SN, you should be able to sell it just the same as any other firearm.
 
Just to set the story on the Ruger MK series and the Ruger22/45 series ,the upper barreled receiver is considered the registered part. You can buy the stripped lowers for both of the above guns all over the internet with no paperwork. I found this out when I had to FFL purchase a Paclite upper for my 22/45.
 
The serial numbered frame is the "firearm.

The serial numbered slide or barrel is not, and can be sold on Evilbay or elsewhere.

Years ago, I used to sell a lot of stripped Winchester 1890/06 pumps for parts on Ebay.

I never ever sold a receiver.

But a few might have 'accidentally' got wrapped and shipped with the matching trigger guard I did describe & sell.

Or not?
My memory fails me at this late date.

rc
 
On the AR15 and M16 the lower carries the serial number and is "the gun" itself; everything else is parts.

On my Mosin/Nagant 91/30 rifle, the receiver, bolt, magazine floor plate and stock buttplate all bear the serial number but the receiver is "the gun" everything else is just parts.

On Thompson Submachine Guns, the upper and lower carry the serial number, matched at the factory, but in the field in arsenal rebuild no effort was made to keep military issue uppers and lowers paired, but the numbered upper was treated as "the gun".

Your slide was matched to the frame at the factory, so both carry the serial numer, but only the frame is considered "the gun" itself. The slide is just another part.
 
To clarify/reiterate: there is no serial number on the "frame" of a Ruger MkII...or any printing of any type.
The "barreled action" is serialized.
 
When I was in grad school, my late wife (then my girlfriend) knew little about guns but enthusiastically embraced my hobby. She came home with a couple purchases/trades that were not exactly kosher. I have several guns that have no serial numbers (because they were made or imported before 1968) but let's just say these guns were of a more recent vintage. The stripped receivers have been sitting at the bottom of a Central Florida lake for 20 years.

I taught her the mistake she made an even gave her the number to call the local police to check if guns had been reported stolen. Never happened to me once but one time she called from a pay phone and was told not to move. She declined to buy the gun and most certainly did move . . . quickly.

Mike
 
Not according to the legal Federal definition. Serial number is never mentioned in the definition of a firearm.

18 USC 921:

Better keep looking then.

Every manufacturer supplies drawing of their design to BATFE since 1968 and they decide what part will bear the serial number.

Most often on handguns the grip frame, though Ruger Mk1/ii/ii ended up on the barrel extension.
bolt actions are on the receiver for the most part.
The AR-15 has two about equal size pieces and the lower ended up being serialized.
 
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