Question on Sig P6/225 from J&G

[wojownik]

Hi all. First post on this forum, and wish it could be on a better topic.

Just received a Sig P6 from J&G Sales, advertized as excellent, hand select ($389.95+$19.99 for second mag+$22 shipping). I wanted to compare conditions from others who may have picked up the same item.

The one I just picked up from my FLL had quite a bit more holster wear across one side of the slide than I would have expected for an excellent item - finish just about worn to the metal in a few spots on the left side. Finish is about excellent on the right side. Frame has wear and dings on the front of the grip below the trigger guard. On average, it's more like NRA very good, rather than NRA excellent condition. Bluing on the barrel is about 75%-80%. Trigger pull, however, is very good, the mechanics look great.

Before I give J&G a call, I'd like to hear other peoples experiences (maybe I'm being a bit picky). Of course, J&G now took the item off their website, so an exchange is probably not an option ...

 

[strangelittleman]

Those P6 German trade-ins are great guns.
They often have a lot of holtser wear and as in many police trade-ins be they U.S. or European, they are often carried a lot and shot little and sometimes the grip frames get a bit dinged up through the course of day to day duty.
Otherwise, it just sounds like typical cosmetic wear resulting from perhaps as many as 30 yrs of service. It's largely to be expected. On the plus side, it may not have had 750-1,000 round through it if that many. So long as it is mechanically sound, you're good go!
For around $400 you got one of the best service pistols to come off the assembly line.
Shoot the hell out of it, enjoy it and if the exterior wear displeases you, use some of the money you saved to get it refinished by a good company like Robar, Birdsong's Black-T, some others, or even SIG, they have good CS. give them a call.
If you like to collect sets, check into obtaining the following Gernman Police trade-ins: H&K P7 PSP and the Walther P5, then you will have a complete set of German police service pistols resulting from the 1970's modernization project the Germans underwent.
I hope this helps

 

[rcmodel]

The one I got from Dan's Ammo a little over a year ago was like new, and appeared to have only been test fired at the factory.

It did have just a little lint in the hammer cut.
Maybe some head CuCu Moo's dress uniform gun?

I think the best ones are long gone now, and the pickings are much slimmer then they were last year for a hand select one.

If it is excellent mechanically, the finish wear is not as important.
It can be refinished.

rc

 

[IndianaBoy]

The described finish on your P6 sounds typical. I doubt you will find one with pristine finish, as it was a service pistol.

 

[highorder]

Sounds like you did ok for $431.94, as long as the internals are in great shape. I expect they are.

I do feel a tad bit bad that the price has risen so far so fast...

I bought my P6 from Aim with 2 mags, box and holster for $277.00 out the door not even a year ago.

 

[RatDrall]

Mine came with a pristine finish, but I've been wearing it for the last 18 months and it looks all beat up.

 

[skeeter_08]

After I got the chance to shoot mine a few times I couldn't care less about the little bit of holster wear it had; it really is the sweetest shooting little pistol! - skeeter_08

 

[amd6547]

The P6's had a pretty thin blue finish on the slide to begin with, and the German holsters wear them pretty quickly. My German belt holster has hard plastic inside that wears directly against the top or the slide. The snap impinges against the side. I also bought a German issue shoulder holster for the P6 (from J&G)...While it is nylon, the material is a rough cordura that would also cause wear.
The slide can easily be touched up with cold blue. My P6 had a little blue wear, and turned out great with some cold blue.
CCR offers a good deal on total refinish using their ceramacoat finish.

 

[flyingdeserteagle]

The P6 is an excellent shooter.
I'd bother JG if they promised you a cherry finish.
Otherwise rub some cold blue on it and take it shooting.

 

[wojownik]

Thanks all for the quick replies. All in all, I suppose the slide wear could be much worse. My quibble might have been with J&G's description of "excellent" - I took it literally (shame on me, believing the marketing lingo and the condition described by the sales rep).

I'll take her out to the range next week, but I'm hopeful she'll be as sweet a shooter my as other Sig's. After closer examination of the internals, it looks like an armorer did a good job on this before sending it off to storage - new spring, thoroughly cleaned. The barrel though looks to have seen a fair amount of use (I'd compare it to the p226 I used for IDPA matches - and I shot the living heck out of that handgun). Will keep seaching for a spare barrel, though that might be a snipe hunt...

I have a p220, 226 and 229, and now a p6/225, so my Sig collection is starting to take shape nicely. I like the suggestions of starting a German police gun collection of a p5 and p7 as well. I have a VoPo P.08. The p7 is an interesting design, but I think its probably outside my price range. Any ideas of who has the Walther p5 in stock?

FWIW, this p6 is a 1979 marked for Nordrhein-Westfalen, as with most of them. (at work, I had mused with a buddy that I was graduating grammar school when this was issued. He noted that he hadn't even been born yet. Ouch.)

 

[strangelittleman]

CDNN had some P7s( the older PSP type w/ heel release) for around $550-$650 and I think SOG still has the P5 for around $450-$600 perhaps. AMD 6547 made the suggestion of a Cerracoat finish....Great idea!

 

[loneviking]

I have one on lay-awake in a pawn shop that I'm eager to take to the range. The finish is mostly gone, but the springs and rails look really good with no grooves or scratches. What's odd is that the rifling in the barrel looks very worn, it isn't sharp as you would expect from looking at the rest of the internals. This one is date stamped '1980' and 'NW'. I figure I'll send it back to Sig for their cleaning/tuneup and put a new barrel on it whenver I can find one.