Real life decision making

[Glockpride]

How much training do you have in firing from a moving vehicle while driving. I know it looked really cool when Robert Deniro did it in HEAT but that's not real life.


You're going to do this while driving in the confines of a vehicle. I carried a shotgun and later an AR in an electronically locked mount in my squad care and accessing it while moving would have been easy if I had been stupid enough to try.
So your plan is to stop and engage in a gunfight when you could just drive away? There is a huge difference between a roadblock and a car with no lights in the road that might possibly be bait to lure someone into stopping so they can be robbed or car jacked.

I think you may have problems understanding what I was trying to convey. Escape/evade, but be ready to shoot & scoot if deadly force is warranted. Not everyone keeps long guns in lockers when the vehicle is occupied. Also, if you’re stopped, shooting from a vehicle isn’t hard. It’s a bit harder when moving, but not impossible. As stated though, I’d rather avoid the situation all together. Sometimes, that isn’t possible in the event of a robbery/hijacking event.

 

[dobedo]

Note tags and keep on driving see if they follow. Make ready my CCW and if they are driving to catch up put the hammer down. One good thing I have been through the DOD driving and tactical evasion course.

 

[wayneinFL]

As the Mrs and I are driving to town and approaching the intersection in #1 post, we are passed by a pickup driving at a very high rate of speed, 80-90mph in a 55mph zone, the bed of the pickup is overloaded because the suspension bump stops are resting on the axle, "Gee, I wonder what the cargo is?"

A question to pose, if one's petite grandmother, great-grandmother was the known female driver in the OP's first post living in this environment, what would you advise she should have done?

Stay away from it.

If I saw a truck passing me, presumably full of contraband, and it came to a an intersection blocked by a car, I would turn around like all I saw was the road blocked and go back towards the house. Forget I saw anything.

I grew up in FL in the 80s, and I learned just enough about smuggling to know you want to stay far away from it.

Sure are a lot of city folks commenting here with no comprehension of what it is like to be out in the boonies many miles from the nearest intersection, and a lot farther to the nearest anything.

I would think most city folks have cars and have driven into the boonies, but I might be wrong.

 

[Jeff White]

I think you may have problems understanding what I was trying to convey. Escape/evade, but be ready to shoot & scoot if deadly force is warranted. Not everyone keeps long guns in lockers when the vehicle is occupied. Also, if you’re stopped, shooting from a vehicle isn’t hard. It’s a bit harder when moving, but not impossible. As stated though, I’d rather avoid the situation all together. Sometimes, that isn’t possible in the event of a robbery/hijacking event.

Why would you stop at all? The road isn’t blocked. If you have cell service call 911, give your location and a description of the vehicle. You’ve now done your duty to your fellow man who might be broken down. The chances of someone not having a cell phone and not being able to call for assistance are pretty slim in this day and age.

The robbery/hijacking event never happens if you just keep driving.

 

[InTheSwamp]

I don't know about the second step, but the first is to reach out for my gun and have it handy.

 

[Jeff White]

I realize that this is a gun forum, but for crying out loud, why would you reach for your gun because there is a stopped car that is showing no lights in the road when you are safely ensconced in a 2 ton box of steel, glass and plastic and that 2 ton box of steel, glass and plastic is capable of placing you far away of the stopped vehicle should a threat materialize? I swear some of you guys will give yourselves PTSD if you live your life thinking everything you encounter is a possible gunfight.

Make note that the vehicle is there, give it as wide a berth as possible when driving around it and call 911 and report the disabled vehicle is all that is required. This is all that is required absent any other signs of danger.

 

[Kleanbore]

I realize that this is a gun forum, but for crying out loud, why would you reach for your gun because there is a stopped car that is showing no lights in the road when you are safely ensconced in a 2 ton box of steel, glass and plastic and that 2 ton box of steel, glass and plastic is capable of placing you far away of the stopped vehicle should a threat materialize?

Great question. That would border or encroach on the absurd.

 

[Anchorite]

I swear some of you guys will give yourselves PTSD if you live your life thinking everything you encounter is a possible gunfight.

Excellent point about this sub-forum.

 

[2zulu1]

I don't know about the second step, but the first is to reach out for my gun and have it handy.

Vigilante actions will land you in jail here, not putting yourself in jeopardy is the first step.

The OP's primary goal for this thread is more about strategy decisions involving avoidance than anything else, what people carry is not a part of this thread.

 

[InTheSwamp]

Vigilante actions will land you in jail here, not putting yourself in jeopardy is the first step.

The OP's primary goal for this thread is more about strategy decisions involving avoidance than anything else, what people carry is not a part of this thread.

Having your gun handy is not putting yourself in jeopardy. You can always turn back, avoid the encounter, etc., while having your gun handy.

 

[2zulu1]

Having your gun handy is not putting yourself in jeopardy. You can always turn back, avoid the encounter, etc., while having your gun handy.

I carry. To me, having a gun handy means the gun is detached from the body and in close proximity. Backing up for a mile on a pitch black county road in order to turn around is not a viable option for many people, like myself. One section of land equals one square mile, hundreds of sections here w/o roads.

 

[InTheSwamp]

I carry. To me, having a gun handy means the gun is detached from the body and in close proximity. Backing up for a mile on a pitch black county road in order to turn around is not a viable option for many people, like myself. One section of land equals one square mile, hundreds of sections here w/o roads.

Without trying to go academic,

Not having the option to go back is another good reason to have the gun handy, i.e., conveniently near.

 

[Jeff White]

Without trying to go academic,

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Not having the option to go back is another good reason to have the gun handy, i.e., conveniently near.

In the infamous 1986 FBI Miami shootout one of the agents unholstered his gun and placed it on the seat next to him before they initiated the stop of Platt and Matix’s car. The weapon slid off of the seat and he was killed while looking for it.

<sarcasm>The way this thread is going I’m waiting for someone to say they’d stop short and do a recon by fire, shooting into the parked vehicle to see if he gets any return fire.<sarcasm>

Think we’ve covered all the bases here. This one is done.