Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
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Now, WITHOUT GOING INTO (AT ALL) THE MERITS OF WHETHER THE GLOBAL WARMING THING AND HUMAN'S CONTROL OVER SAME, IS REAL OR CONTRIVED,
There was/is a History Channel show running right now which claims, quite unequivocally, that the earth is warming, that the glaciers and sea ice are melting, temperatures are rise at an alarming rate, and we may have reached a tipping point from which there is no return (due to a vicious cycle mechanism resulting from the lack of white ice reflecting the sun's heat back into space lead to more melting, leads to....). Anyhow, if you believe the claims of the scientists and the producers of the show (presented as fact) - remember, we are assuming for purposes of this thread that the scientists are right - we are not debating whether they are right or wrong - if we take those claims, what's going to happen sometime within the next 100 years, and quite possibly within just 50 YEARS, is that sea levels are going to rise on the order of 13 to 20 feet globally, which puts about 1/3 of Florida and a lot of other coastal areas, particularly big chunks of large cities like NYC area, under water, and - AND - the warming will also produce unprecedented Hurricanes which will create storm surges reaching much deeper inland, greatly exacerbating the problem when those storms hit large cities. Basically, we *ARE* in for a Katrina x10 in the next 50-100 years, possibly Katrina times 10 pretty much every few years. If we are not able to affect the climate in the other direction, either through control of CO2 emissions or other measures. Again, taking their claims at face value.
Well, the ocean level rise will take place gradually, allowing for govermnents and people and charities to slowly re-locate the refugees in other cities and towns upland and find homes for everyone.
But the huge Katrina-like events are the really worrisome parts, not only for the cities/areas hit themselves, but also for those in nearby high ground areas who will see the influx of refugees. Now, Katrina refugees did not cause any problems, by and large, because they were spread out over such a large area into the vastness of TX, OK, AR, MS, TN, and the rest of the south and elsewhere. But in New England and other places along the east coast, there are very few places for the refugees to go, particularly when there is disaster after disaster, as is foretold, taxing the ability and resources of FEMA and the infrastructure and economies of the areas accepting refugees. New England is already pretty packed, and I dare say most landowners won't accept squatters. The situation could very well turn ugly, with people looking for, and appropriating as they may be able, food, water, land, and infrastructure, and greatly magnify the need for serious planning and weapons both in those coastal areas themselves, and in the likely refugee-destination areas.
Thoughts on how to prepare for this? Again, we're *assuming* that this stuff will happen for purposes of this thread, so don't debate that issue. Anyone gonna move from a coastal area like south Florida to some other place? Land is gonna become that much more valuable - going towards a Waterworld scenario like that. There will be dams and dykes built, as in Holland, but they will only be able to do so much.
There was/is a History Channel show running right now which claims, quite unequivocally, that the earth is warming, that the glaciers and sea ice are melting, temperatures are rise at an alarming rate, and we may have reached a tipping point from which there is no return (due to a vicious cycle mechanism resulting from the lack of white ice reflecting the sun's heat back into space lead to more melting, leads to....). Anyhow, if you believe the claims of the scientists and the producers of the show (presented as fact) - remember, we are assuming for purposes of this thread that the scientists are right - we are not debating whether they are right or wrong - if we take those claims, what's going to happen sometime within the next 100 years, and quite possibly within just 50 YEARS, is that sea levels are going to rise on the order of 13 to 20 feet globally, which puts about 1/3 of Florida and a lot of other coastal areas, particularly big chunks of large cities like NYC area, under water, and - AND - the warming will also produce unprecedented Hurricanes which will create storm surges reaching much deeper inland, greatly exacerbating the problem when those storms hit large cities. Basically, we *ARE* in for a Katrina x10 in the next 50-100 years, possibly Katrina times 10 pretty much every few years. If we are not able to affect the climate in the other direction, either through control of CO2 emissions or other measures. Again, taking their claims at face value.
Well, the ocean level rise will take place gradually, allowing for govermnents and people and charities to slowly re-locate the refugees in other cities and towns upland and find homes for everyone.
But the huge Katrina-like events are the really worrisome parts, not only for the cities/areas hit themselves, but also for those in nearby high ground areas who will see the influx of refugees. Now, Katrina refugees did not cause any problems, by and large, because they were spread out over such a large area into the vastness of TX, OK, AR, MS, TN, and the rest of the south and elsewhere. But in New England and other places along the east coast, there are very few places for the refugees to go, particularly when there is disaster after disaster, as is foretold, taxing the ability and resources of FEMA and the infrastructure and economies of the areas accepting refugees. New England is already pretty packed, and I dare say most landowners won't accept squatters. The situation could very well turn ugly, with people looking for, and appropriating as they may be able, food, water, land, and infrastructure, and greatly magnify the need for serious planning and weapons both in those coastal areas themselves, and in the likely refugee-destination areas.
Thoughts on how to prepare for this? Again, we're *assuming* that this stuff will happen for purposes of this thread, so don't debate that issue. Anyone gonna move from a coastal area like south Florida to some other place? Land is gonna become that much more valuable - going towards a Waterworld scenario like that. There will be dams and dykes built, as in Holland, but they will only be able to do so much.
