Reasoning of Non-Typicals???

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I’ve heard many reasons of how deer develop non-typical racks, but just wanted to be a little educated. To me I always took it as simple genetics, but I heard a very convincing theory such as diet. Could diet be the reasoning of some of these twisted up racks? If so what could these deer possibly be feeding on to develop these racks? Is it simple genetics? Is it a combination of genetics along with a certain kind of diet? Could it be maybe the deer was consistently feeding on something that wasn’t a typical source of nutrition for deer?
 
blackops, the picture of the one I sent you a Ranger thought that maybe he had been shot in the horn sometime before I got him and it grew like that.
 
surjimmy,

I failed to notice that your son took the deer on the left. Just wanted to say congratulations! I’m sure it felt great to see your boy get his first deer and a nice one at that. You’re starting him at a young age, that’s good.
 
That thing weighed 260lbs, on the hoof, field dressed at 200. Deer don't get that big in Oklahoma, I've never seen a 260lb deer. I grounded him for the next 5 years.:) I'll show him.
 
Whoa, whoa, whoa...

Don't just be talking about 260 lb deer without pics. That's just cruel.
 
They also come from injuries

I have heard this is the main contributing factor. Also that an injury on the left side of the body will cause the antler on the right side to get non typical and vice versa.
 
There is no correlation between number of injuries and number of atypical formations.

Also that an injury on the left side of the body will cause the antler on the right side to get non typical and vice versa.

It is NOT that bilateral asymmetry will be caused by an injury to the opposite side of the body, but that is CAN happen.
 
It is NOT that bilateral asymmetry will be caused by an injury to the opposite side of the body, but that is CAN happen

Right I am not saying every injury will cause an abnormal tine or that it will always be on the opposite side. From what understood though that if the injury was significant enough to create a non typical formation it will most likely be on the opposite side, but I am no biologist nor is the person that told this to me.
 
in an old boon and crocket there is a deer without a main beam just 4-6 spikes sticking out on each side the book says it was caused by the deer being castrated i seem to remember something about a cactus being involved
 
No, you actually stated it fairly explicitly that injuries on one side of the body cause abnormal antlers on the other.

Also that an injury on the left side of the body will cause the antler on the right side to get non typical and vice versa.

It can happen that way, but not necessarily. The funny thing is that biologists have documented injuries on same side and opposite side producing co-occurring with atypical antlers, so maybe the siding of the injury isn't all that significant. They have also documented atypicals co-occurring with disease and malnutrition, which are then systemic and not sided.
 
You are right Double I did say will but I didn't say always. God greif I am not trying to make it sound like a regular occurance or the only known reasons. Sorry I used a poor choice of words. I often use the word will; A bear will eat salmon. My truck will get stuck. Quail will babysit others chicks. Doesn't mean that they always do.
 
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I shot a really big mule deer doe and a buck running together once and when I got up to them turned out they were both bucks but the one had a front leg that was injured some years before and was bent upwards somewhat and this caused him to not grow horns. Fish and Game called it a doe since it didn't have horns.
 
i asked my wildlife management prof. today about it he says it has some to do with injury but mostly due to some what crappy genetics
 
i asked my wildlife management prof. today about it he says it has some to do with injury but mostly due to some what crappy genetics

I wouldn't use the term "crapp" genetics, maybe different, but not crappy. I listed a link on my post above of the "would be" non-typical world record Mule. I have a hard time believing the "would be" world record non-typical Muley had crappy genetics. A 440 gross and 66 points, I will call that above average genetics.
 
The genetics thing can only go so far back too. How did the first deer recieve non typical antler growth before he passed it on. He had to recieved it from an injury, malnutrition, disease or something of that nature.
 
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