Recent purchase, S&W .44 Russian, American Bulldog ????

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.44 Russian versus .44 Webley

Hello. I have been following your posts about the ammo and the American Bulldog. I have some interesting information you might use. It is from W.E. Goforth's book: Iver Johnson Arms and Cycle Works Firearms 1871 - 1993.
In this book is explained the differences between the First and Second Model American Bulldog revolvers. One identifying feature of the two are the grip panels. The First Model Large Frame has an Eagle with the grip screw running through it. The Second Model Large Frame has a Dog's Head with the grip screw running through it. The First Model was manufactured from 1882 - 1886. The Second Model 1887 - 1899. The First Model also had a lsaw-handle style grip frame, while the Second Model has a more rounded grip frame.
The main difference that seems to be going on here is, which cartridge would be a factory replacement for the .44 Webley Centerfire? There is only one . That is the American reduced load of the .44 Bulldog. Not the .44 Russian, nor the .44 S&W cartridges. I do not have the loading spec of either the .44 Russian or .44 S&W at my disposal, but I have researched the .44 Russian with the assistance of Chick's Gun Shop in Elk City, Oklahoma. He had one of the largest retail shops featuring any American made firearm of Pre-1900 manufacture in the U.S.A. The .44 Russian was originally manufactured for the single-action Smith & Wesson Russian #3 revolver as a possible military use by the Russian Army. There were some Spanish made copies of various revolvers that were chambered for the Russian cartridge, also. So, to answer your question,'
"Can I shoot .44 Russian cartridges in my Iver Johnson American Bulldog?" The answer is NO.
 
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.44 Webley versus .44 Russian

As far as fitting in the cylinder, a .270 Winchester cartridge will fit in a .270 Weatherby. Disastrous consequences!
 
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^^^ One picture is worth a thousand words. OP seems to have difficulty with the concept that the gun may not be safe to fire in the first place, and if he is able to fire it with the right or wrong ammo (that seems unclear), it may fail at a critical time when need for home defense. Oh yeah, and gun shops are notorious for giving poor advice. Leather gloves and a bag? Really? Won't help if that old kicker goes off like a hand grenade. I note he hasn't posted since saying he was off to test fire it. Probably hard to type without fingers on one hand.
 
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