Reloading Data Library: What am I missing?

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For manuals, I get the most use out of Speer and Hodgdon.

I also subscribe to LoadData.com and for $30 a year, I get instant access to all of them, plus all the data printed in Handloader/Rifle magazines and special editions. It's updated constantly and the search function works well.
 
I have enjoyed my manuals, the most entertaining is the Lee, and the most data in one book is the Lee, first one I open to look up a load. Just take a look at 9mm luger in the Lee, and compare it to the ridiculously scant data in the Lyman.(49)

If I pick up a book for the library, it is usually the Lyman cast bullet handbook because I'd like to use my casting gear some day in the near future before I kick the bucket. Ha.
 
I'm surprised no one mentioned Handloader Magazine... awesome resource. Also, the ABC's of Reloading is good to have on the shelf.
 
I was surprised at how many loads there are in the Lee manual. Someone commented earlier that their loads were conservative. The loads I looked at seemed on par with other data sources.
 
I was surprised at how many loads there are in the Lee manual. Someone commented earlier that their loads were conservative. The loads I looked at seemed on par with other data sources.

That would be because they take everyone else’s loads and put them in their book.
 
Oh really? I haven't had a chance yet to compare thier loads to my other manuals. Not a fan of data thieves.

Oh well. If I wasted $25 on the Lee manual, I guess I've made worse decisions in my life.
 
I don't see it so much as data theft as collecting and consolidating information.
Ok, not their own data but they did gather it up and print it for people to use.
I would guess Lee has permission to reprint the data, otherwise someone would be sending them a bill.
 
Ken Water's "Pet Loads" book. A bit pricey, and the load data is somewhat dated, but lots of good information in there.
 
The only people mad at Lee's manual are the same people that disregard Lee equipment. First book I pick up, because chances are it will have what I am looking for.
 
The only people mad at Lee's manual are the same people that disregard Lee equipment. First book I pick up, because chances are it will have what I am looking for.
I'm not "mad" at Lee's manual, I just don't think the value is there seeing as how all the data in the manual is available online from the powder manufacturers - and more current. When I start working up new loads, I like multiple sources of independent data - which Lee data is not. Plus, the data in the Lee often does not mention specifics, such as barrel length used, brass used, specific bullet brand, etc. Those things can make a difference. The tutorial section in the front is not bad, but not as good as other manuals IMHO.

I am, however, a fan of many of the Lee products. I use my LCT press and love it. I recommend it to most people starting out. I have owned four presses from Lee, and I suspect I will own more.
 
The only people mad at Lee's manual are the same people that disregard Lee equipment. First book I pick up, because chances are it will have what I am looking for.

In an earlier post I said that I have 65-70 books/load manuals. One of those is the Lee 2nd edition. It is true that I'm a critic of some of the hardware Lee markets. But that comes not so much from what Lee claims their hardware can do rather from the overrated claims some Lee users claim they can achieve. The truth is I really don't care what you have on your bench but if you publically make an exaggerated claim about it I will publically call you out on it.

Back to the Lee manual. Completely lost in most discussions on literature of this sort is the distinction between Load Data and Handloading Instruction. Most handloading manuals contain both (data and instruction). The Lee book falls into that category. If you are a beginner and use Lee hardware and can get past the nauseating self-praise of all things Lee sprinkled throughout the instruction, then you will find that aspect of the Lee book useful.

As far as the load data aspect of the Lee book is concerned, Lee Precision does not test loads, all of the data is from outside sources. Most of it is dated and some that use imported powders are of limited value as those powders are not being imported anymore. Vectan powders were off the market in the US for years and have since returned, a example of keeping something that has gone out of style long enough that it comes back in vogue.

It is true that the number of loads in the Lee book is high. One of the reasons for that is the addition of load information that is basically void of value. For example, they list lead RN bullets and plated RN, both of the same weight as separate loads. They will also give separate loads for bullets that have 1 grain difference, for example 124g and 125g 9mm bullets. So technically there are more listings but many of those listings are repeats with minute differences that will go unnoticed in the field.

In conclusion, get the Lee book and use it as I do but know that it doesn't quite live up to the consumer hype.


I'm surprised no one mentioned Handloader Magazine... awesome resource. Also, the ABC's of Reloading is good to have on the shelf.

The OP asked about load data. The ABC book doesn't contain useful load data.

The data in Handloader Magazine is great. The problem is you get what you get, your particular application may go un-reported for years.

Ken Waters' Pet Loads is a set of articles and data mostly from Handloader Magazine. It is a bit dated and a little on the expensive side but still worth having in my opinion. His Notebook is also a fun and informative reading experience.
 
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should be picking up

Should???
It depends.

If you use a lot of Company X's bullets and they print a manual, you should absolutely have their's.
Another resource you may not have thought of is the One Caliber One Book series from LoadBooks USA.

I have one for every caliber I load (that they print)
I load some that they don't print (7.62x25)

Just my 2¢ worth.
 
For example, they list lead RN bullets and plated RN, both of the same weight as separate loads.

This might be because plated and lead generally load different and jacket loads different than plated.
I for one don't agree that plated and lead require the same data.
In most everything I have tested plated charges for me tend to fall between lead charges and jacketed charges.
 
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