Reloading projects for retirement - Happy 4th of July (Independence from work?)

[lightman]

Congratulations on a well earned retirement. I retired 4 years ago at the age of 57 due to health issues. Like most of the others, I stay busy! I help a farmer friend in the spring and fall, spend time with family, go to ballgames, gymnastic meets, ect. I shoot, cast, reload, hunt and fish as much as I can. The Wife and I take a few trips a year.

When I retired I sold most of my electrical inventory and speciality tools and reorganized the shop. Cleaned out my drawers and closets and sold a bunch of belt buckles and knives that I once thought that I wanted to collect. I had cabinets built in the garage and cleaned out the attic, moving the stuff that we kept down stairs. I had buckets and buckets of brass that I eventually sorted, deprimed, polished and stored away. I also had buckets and buckets of wheel weights that I melted and poured into ingots, and reorganize my lead stash. I'm learning to fish, something that I never had time for when I was working. I'm also trying to learn to Duck hunt and Turkey hunt, also things that I didn't have time for before retirement.

Anyway, it sounds like you have a plan and I doubt that you will be bored.

 

[hdwhit]

bds wrote: Well, looks like I finally made it to retirement with my fingers and toes intact.

Congratulations.

As to the rest of your post, don't underestimate how much time those other demands on your time will take. I actually had more time for reloading when I was still working.

I haven't fired a single round since I retired - too many other things have taken priority.

 

[LiveLife]

Congratulations on a well earned retirement. I retired 4 years ago at the age of 57 due to health issues.

Thank you. Same here, early retirement due to medical reasons. And whenever I see my primary MD and growing list of specialists, they keep giving me new diagnoses. At least the neurosurgeon told me I didn't need further follow up after physical therapy but said to contact him again when my left leg goes numb and I have to drag it around. Oh joy ...

Congratulations.

As to the rest of your post, don't underestimate how much time those other demands on your time will take. I actually had more time for reloading when I was still working.

Thank you and no kidding.

 

[LiveLife]

While steadfastly pursuing wife's retirement project list, I decided to knock off my mother's longtime request to see Multnomah Falls (600' waterfall) east of Portland and my desire to check out Astoria, OR and Long Beach/Rain forest of WA. To build a 180' length back fence along our property, I have been looking for a post hole auger and found one on CL near my parent's town. It turns out seller is a pawn shop having 20% off sale on all tools. The Home Depot Powermate 43cc auger looked like it was used only once as paint on the auger blade looked pristine with just tip missing paint. As we took the tool outside to test, something in the glass case caught my eye and it was a Brown and Sharpe 0-1" micrometer marked $10.

The power auger started fine and idled well. With 20% off tools, price dropped from $150 to $120 ($249 retail). When I asked if they could throw in the B&S micrometer, he goes, "Sure" with a smile. It zeros well and will be used to verify the countless measurements I will be making for various myth busting threads.

While returning back towards my parent's house, I get a call from a CL seller (I am finding out when retired, you have a lot of time to patiently wait for CL item call backs - Who knew? ) who listed a 30" bending metal brake from Harbor Freight. Story is his friend and him were supposed to do some projects and friend bought all kinds of tools only to have them collect dust in his garage for years. With prospect of joint venture now gone, he is selling off the items that were never opened from the boxes. I bought the brake for $40 with plans to build copy versions of the prototype machine pistol/carbine rest with (up to 17 ga) metal parts in addition to plywood. Besides, the brake will be used to fabricate various aluminum/stainless steel pieces for my 18' fishing boat (boat is behind the brake in the picture). I am thinking about doing this Youtube modification with the addition of springs for easy one person/hand operation. I can see many more retirement projects percolating ...

And the road trip to OR/WA? It was nice with a surprise buy of 7.1 Onkyo surround sound home theater system (Wife asked for 5.1 system) that popped up on CL during our stay in Portland just as I was going to bed and bought next morning for $130 (Wife and I are both happy campers as our livingroom floor and windows are now booming when we watch movies like Fury or rock out to Metallica or Nightwish ).

BTW, here's the picture of the 600' waterfall.

 

[LiveLife]

I haven't fired a single round since I retired - too many other things have taken priority.

Due to my ongoing PIF retirement project of teaching/sharing defensive point shooting, I have actually stepped up my reloading since retirement to keep 1000 rounds of 9mm par level that may need to be increased to 2000-3000 rounds along with more .223 rounds on hand.

With need for more 9mm and .223 rounds than I had anticipated for retirement, I am planning to change out the Dillon 650 from 45ACP to 9mm and new to me Dillon 550 from 40S&W to .223. With case feeder on 650, production rate for 9mm should increase significantly over Auto Breech Lock Pro (Which will be changed to reload 45ACP with separate seat and crimp operations) and .223 production on 550 should be faster than single stage.

What about Pro 1000? They will actually remain my test platform for various myth busting threads as they produce the least amount of OAL variance of .001" and I can move C-H 502 micrometer powder measure between Dillon/Lee presses due to standard threading.

Added to current projects, I am thinking of building a new tool shed/temporary reloading room to use when the master bedroom/master bathroom expansion renovation takes place possibly this winter and I get to fabricate/build all the cabinets and drawers ... Fun Fun Fun.

Sure ... plenty of time for reloading and shooting in retirement.

 

[LiveLife]

I have pondered about getting the Fusion Firearms complete 1911 slide assembly in 9mm to use with my Sig 1911 for some time. I even called Fusion Firearms and technician I spoke to said the slide is compatible with Sig 1911 frame but will require ejector replacement with longer 9mm ejector.

Now that I am retired, I figure shooting 9mm vs 45ACP will be a cost saving factor and I still get to enjoy shooting a 1911 along with the GSG 1911 in 22LR.

Well, Brownells is running a sale for $344.99 shipped with promo code EMC ($30 off and free shipping with code) and I decided to get it - https://www.brownells.com/handgun-p...-carbon-black-sku100028393-114394-212033.aspx

The complete 9mm slide is back ordered which is fine with me. The converted Sig 1911 will be used for accuracy range testing along with point shooting training.

 

[LiveLife]

Finally that I have new progressive glasses (But now diagnosed with Glaucoma and touch of cataract in left eye), I plan to participate in Aug-Sept popular LEO autoloader 10-shot challenge offhand at 15/25 yards - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...ular-leo-autoloader-10-shot-challenge.853691/

The challenge will kick start my retirement project of comparing different reference loads to new loads to see which is more accurate using RMR's very consistent in-house manufactured bullets (45ACP loads will default to MBC 200 gr SWC, either 12 BHN Bullseye or 18 BHN IDP #1 as I have not found other bullets that are more accurate and 40S&W loads may be used with Montana Gold 165 gr JHP and/or now discontinued RMR Hardcore Match thick plated 180 gr RNFP).

There are quite a few combinations I will be going through (I sure wish I had the prototype machine rest done already) but will start with known accurate reference loads and new loads I recently identified like Clean Shot, Target and Sport Pistol.

Reloading back in match mode, brass will go through "match grade" prep of pre-resizing and hand priming with primer pockets cleaned as necessary. Post myth busting neck tension and bullet setback based on headstamp, WIN or other brass that won't produce any bullet setback will be used. Pro 1000 will be used as it produces consistently low .001" OAL/COL variance (I could also use Dillon 550 if I get the new bench built in time). Bullets will be sorted by consistency in weight and length.

So here are my initial candidates for the "match loads" for the Aug-Sept challenge by caliber based on recent years testing (Probably be adding more):

• 9mm - RMR 115/124/135/147 gr FMJ Match Winners and Clean Shot/Target/Titegroup/N320/Sport Pistol/BE-86
• 40S&W - Montana Gold 165 gr JHP/RMR 180 gr RNFP Hardcore Match and BE-86/N340
• 45ACP - MBC 200 gr SWC (12/18 BHN) and Bullseye/Clean Shot/Promo/N320/Sport Pistol/W231/HP-38

 

[hdwhit]

bds wrote:
Well, looks like I finally made it to retirement with my fingers and toes intact.

Congratulations.

 

[LiveLife]

Thank you.

Well, wife's retirement project of building two large buildings for the turkeys came to an abrupt stop when the family who got some of her turkeys ended up trading the remaining 10 turkeys for rabbit meat and cash (Wife is shuffling her project priorities and now wants the back corner of acreage full of Blackberry bushes cleared for possible new site for chicken/turkey buildings and/or greenhouse - So I drove 1.5 hours today to buy a like-new DR Trimmer mower at less than half price to clear the Blackberry bushes starting tomorrow).

A break in project work gave me a chance to do some reloading and load development/comparison range test for the Aug-Sep Popular LEO Pistol Challenge - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...10-shot-challenge.853691/page-2#post-11194785

Although I got new progressive glasses (I noticed right eye vision was blurry), I am now diagnosed with Glaucoma (with a touch of cataract in my left eye) and started taking eye drops which made the corrected vision blurry again. (I tell you, LIFE HAPPENS).

I have wanted to do a comparison test of IMR Target and Sport Pistol, two powders which produced very small 25 yard 10 shot groups with my JR carbine and 9mm barrel so I loaded up my reference W231/HP-38 and Promo loads using RMR 115 gr FP Mini Match Winner to 1.085" (To accommodate my aftermarket barrel with short leade) along with Target and Sport Pistol:

• W231/HP-38: 4.8 gr was chosen as it is my reference powder charge I use with FMJ/RN loaded to 1.130"

• Promo: 4.0-4.2 gr was chosen as it is my reference powder charge I use with FMJ/RN loaded to 1.110"-1.125"

• Target: 4.2 gr was chosen based on my previous load development and range testing with RN loaded to 1.130" - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-and-vectan-ba-9-5-ba-9.817796/#post-10508215

• Sport Pistol: 4.5 gr was chosen based on my previous load development and range testing with RN loaded to 1.130" (Perhaps I should have tested 4.8 gr , Oh well, next time) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/new-alliant-sport-pistol.816514/page-5#post-10598431

Also, I am happy to report measurements were made using new-to-me Brown & Sharpe micrometer which replaced the Starrett micrometers I sold - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...endence-from-work.853305/page-3#post-11186045

RMR 115 gr FP Match Winner is the "Mini" version of 124 gr FP Match Winner and multiple bullets' diameter measured at .3555". Bullet length ranged from .523" to .526" with most measuring .523" to .524". Due to .3555" diameter of the bullet, .378" taper crimp was used with sorted WIN (Winchester) brass which did not experience any bullet setback when loaded from magazine in Glock 22 and KKM 40-9 conversion barrel using MagPul G17 magazines. S&B Small Pistol primers were used.

Range testing was done at 15 yards and since I forgot my Caldwell Steady Rest NXT, I used a 30 cal plastic ammo can to rest the dust cover of the pistol. I decided to shoot some rounds with GSG 1911 22LR to warm up and I immediately noticed my right eye trying to focus on the front sight then going blurry (I tell you, choose your parents carefully and DO NOT GET OLD). Thank goodness for point shooting as I was still able to place my fast shots into 1/4 sheet copy paper targets. After shooting several magazines through GSG 1911 22LR, I proceeded to shoot the Glock 22/KKM 40-9 barrel.

As my vision of front sight oscillated through varying degrees of blurriness, I tried to maintain the same sight picture as much as possible. (Grrrrrrrr - Definitely looking forward to finishing the prototype pistol/carbine machine rest for accuracy testing). Promo load was shot first to warm up the barrel followed by W231/HP-38 as shown below.

To maintain what little testing consistency I had going, I taped the 1/2 sheet copy paper targets in the same spot. My dismal W231/HP-38 "pattern" was followed by tighter Target "group" and larger Sport Pistol "pattern" similar to W231/HP-38. This was a surprise. Despite my vision issue, tighter group using the same pistol/magazine/lousy shooting platform of ammo can meant Target load was more accurate than Sport Pistol load.

I should have tested 4.8 gr of Sport Pistol as it produced smaller group than 4.5 gr load during my previous load development with RMR 115 gr FMJ loaded to 1.130". I plan to retest 4.8 gr load using Caldwell Steady Rest NXT on the next range trip.

Since IMR Target "group" gave me some hope, I shot GSG 1911 22LR next for some verification and got the below "group". I am using Federal Walmart 36 gr CPHP 550 round Value Pack (Red Box) as this ammo produced the largest groups (when I tested with 10/22 Take Down) and using it up for point shooting drills/training - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-thickness-for-accuracy.850634/#post-11113638

This was also a surprise as Federal 36 gr CPHP bulk packs (525 or 550 round packs) have not been accurate for me out of 10/22 Take Down. I am going to shoot more accurate CCI Blazer Lead RN, Aguila Lead RN/CP RN and Armscor CPHP ammo on my next range test with GSG 1911 22LR.

So for now, looks like I will be shooting the Aug-Sep Popular LEO Pistol Challenge with Target load unless I identify a more accurate powder/load.

BTW, Brownells emailed me that my backordered Fusion Firearms complete 1911 9mm slide was shipped so I should be able to convert my railed 45ACP Sig 1911 to 9mm soon for testing, perhaps with the scope mount.

Next powders I will be testing are Vectan Ba 9 1/2, Shooters World Clean Shot, Vectan AS, Shooters World Auto Pistol, W244 along with N320, N340, Titegroup, WST, WSF, Unique, Power Pistol, AutoComp, CFE Pistol and BE-86.

 

[LiveLife]

I have pondered about getting the Fusion Firearms complete 1911 slide assembly in 9mm to use with my Sig 1911 for some time. I even called Fusion Firearms and technician I spoke to said the slide is compatible with Sig 1911 frame but will require ejector replacement with longer 9mm ejector.

UPDATE: Well, received the complete Fusion Firearms 1911 9mm slide but a big snag - The slide rail is too narrow for Sig 1911 frame rails. Since I was hoping to switch back and forth with 45ACP slide, sanding to narrow the frame rails is not an option.

So I called Fusion Firearms and they will gladly machine the slide rails to fit the Sig frame rails for $169 at least.

I am contemplating getting the work done by Fusion Firearms which will still leave me with one usable 1911 at any time or going with RIA 1911 38 Super (which is CA legal) and getting a RIA 9mm barrel which will give me two usable pistols when I go shooting.

Decisions ... pondering ... what to do ...

Any suggestion?

 

[Axis II]

@bds 38 super seems like a cool caliber to play around with. I say go with whatever components will be cheaper.

 

[LiveLife]

@bds 38 super seems like a cool caliber to play around with. I say go with whatever components will be cheaper.

My intent was to use the railed Sig 1911 frame to use for 9mm load testing with the Fusion Firearms complete slide. Now that it's going to cost additional $169 (likely more as I will probably have more work done before frame/slide leaves Fusion Firearms hands), getting another pistol like RIA 38 Super to convert to 9mm simply with barrel swap will give me the additional benefit of having 9mm/45ACP 1911s when I go shooting.

My heart says to go with Fusion Firearms slide work but the practicality of having two 1911s in 9mm/45ACP is hard to look past.

I even considered buying any used RIA 1911 in 45ACP as I can get a complete RIA 1911 9mm Tactical kit for $249 and free shipping - https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rock-Islan...:1fEAAOSwmOZbgGgK:sc:USPSPriority!95531!US!-1

 

[Blue68f100]

This was also a surprise as Federal 36 gr CPHP bulk packs (525 or 550 round packs) have not been accurate for me out of 10/22 Take Down. I am going to shoot more accurate CCI Blazer Lead RN, Aguila Lead RN/CP RN and Armscor CPHP ammo on my next range test with GSG 1911 22LR.

I've never had good accuracy from the Fed bulk packs, 2" at 25 yrds is average. The Federal Lightning and Auto Match shoot much better. But the AE-22 , 40gr solid or 36gr HP has out shoot all of them in my Browning ATD and Ruger MK-III. With it I can get < 1" groups at 25yrs in the ATD, it's what I use for my squirrel gun. Even take the furry tail rats out at 80 yrds with them.

 

[km101]

Congratulations! Believe it or not, things will settle down to a manageable routine. Once you get the first round of projects done for everyone they won’t press quite as hard. Been retired for 7 years and I like it!

When you are retired, EVERY NIGHT IS FRIDAY NIGHT AND EVERY DAY IS SATURDAY!

 

[LiveLife]

Range Test #2: Continued from post #59 - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...endence-from-work.853305/page-3#post-11195171

With the reality of progressive glasses and now Glaucoma setting in with continued need to take eye drops, I examined other options for range trip #2 to improve on lousy sighted shooting results to 15/25 yards.

So I initially mounted Fab Defense/Mako universal scope mount and red dot to Glock 22 and found it not ideal as weight of the mount/scope wobbled the flexible picatinny rail/dust cover of Glock 22. Then I realized I had a long eye relief scope I used for Saiga .308 and mounted it to the scope mount. While not stable due to flexibility of Glock 22 rail/dust cover (Hence why I wanted to convert my railed Sig 1911 to 9mm for optical range testing), the heavier weight of scope better stabilized the top of rail/dust cover to bottom of slide. Perhaps good enough for a range test. Maybe.

Now don't laugh but here's Glock 22 with Fab Defense universal scope mount with 2-7x32 scope (Notice front of the scope elevated slightly? This will push the bullet holes lower making me max out the vertical adjustment of the scope at the range)

To zero scope, I used Promo load and Caldwell rest at 15 yards (Since dust cover is flexible, I used the bottom of trigger guard on the rest). As I already mentioned, weight lifting up the front of scope made me max out the vertical adjustment and got the following 5 shot group (Used top right corner blue tape to place crosshair while making horizontal/vertical adjustments)

I went, "Hey, pretty good" and wanted to see how Target load did. When I got below 3 shot group, I felt Fab mount/scope good enough for 25 yard testing (I had only planned on verifying 15 yard groups).

First 25 yard 5 shots with Promo load went better than I thought (Red circle) and then holes started to get erratic. So I figured to tighten the mount/scope bolts and reached for the Allen wrenches in the pocket. But when I found an empty pocket instead, I realized I had changed shorts before leaving the house.

So with likely loosened mount/scope bolts from jarring recoil, I decided to shoot remaining Target loads at 25 yards. I will retest W231/HP-38, Promo, Target and Sport Pistol loads again with tightened mount/scope bolts but Range Test #2 result is giving me hope. (I sure wish I had my railed Sig 1911 converted to 9mm already).

 

[LiveLife]

Some of you maybe thinking (regarding Range Test #2 posted above), "Why fuss with funky scope mount on flexible Glock rail for 25 yard testing when I should be working on prototype pistol/rifle machine rest for more accurate testing?"

Well, shortly after my retirement on July 4th, wife, my mother/father, sister/BIL all approached me with demand project lists and "to do" requests that I essentially blew the month of July and currently working on wife's many projects.

Wife's project list now grew to roofing the entire house when the new full-length enclosed porch is added to the back of the house (After 180 ft, maybe to 260 ft, of wooden fence for the back of the property) so even working on the boats has been set aside until winter rain season to work inside the pole barn.

While the prototype hybrid pistol/rifle machine rest build is on hold, I got to think more about it during my tri-state road trip for my parents. Since I have a sheetmetal brake now, I may even try a simpler prototype first with two inverted triangle tubes with small tube on top to mount a picatinny rail. (Remember, I am trying to PIF working copies of the machine rest to THR members so they too can conduct accurate range tests? ).

Besides, this is allowing me to test other accuracy testing platforms and see what they are capable of in comparison to the machine rest build for reference.

 

[LiveLife]

Range Test #3: Continued from post #65 - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...endence-from-work.853305/page-3#post-11211204

OK, tightened the mount/scope bolts and decided to reduce OAL down to 1.050" for Target load and 1.055" for Promo load (Since Promo is bulkier powder, slightly longer OAL to not compress powder charge) to see if group size got smaller.

Out of curiosity, I brought along GSG 1911 22LR and Armscor 36 gr CPHP which has been producing small groups slightly larger than CCI Blazer (I have only done 10/15 yard accuracy testing off hand, not rested) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-thickness-for-accuracy.850634/#post-11113638

Using iron sights and Caldwell pistol rest and my progressive glasses (I can either focus on copy paper target which the front sight almost covers up or the front sight ... welcome to my world - I ended up aiming at the center with the three green dots lined up), I got the following groups at 25 yards. I guess around 2" groups aren't bad for progressive glasses with Glaucoma/cataract.

Next was reshoot of Promo 4.0-4.2 gr load using 2-7x32 long eye relief scope set at 7x and Caldwell rest (Careful to rest bottom of trigger guard and not dust cover/bottom of rail). Once again, I had to tape up my glasses lifted towards my hearing protector springs overhead so I could use the "reader" portion of glasses at the bottom (Yeah, welcome to my world - Don't get old ). Since I tightened the mount/scope bolts, first two shots seemed to have resettled the mount/scope (Blue lines) and red circle shows subsequent 10 shot group.

Happy with the sub 2" group from Promo load, I then shot the Target 4.2 gr load with different results than what was expected (After shooting 10 rounds, I shot the remainder). I was expecting smaller group than what I got yesterday which was smaller than 2". After tightening the scope mount/riser bolts again, thought about tightening the mount bolt to Glock rail and changed my mind.

Really wish I had that railed Sig 1911 converted to 9mm.

 

[LiveLife]

I do want to point out that 115 gr FP and 4.0-4.2 gr of Promo is a light target load essentially at start charge as 4.5 gr is max charge for 115 gr FMJ at 1.120" OAL. Same for 4.2 gr of Target as 4.4 gr is start charge for 115 gr Gold Dot HP at 1.125" OAL. Spent brass from both loads were piled just to the right of the pistol and behind me.

I plan to increase the powder charges for the next range trip along with testing RMR 95 gr FMJ loads.

 

[Blue68f100]

I have a similar problem when it comes to seeing the sights. I had a special pair of glasses made up that put my long distance lens in 1 side and near vision in the other. It allowed me to see both sights and target at the same time. The bad thing was it gave me head aches from my brain trying to adj to them. It's an option that some use. It works but takes some time to get adjusted too. I have a pair of glasses with just my near vision too. I use these when I'm working and don't need to see any distances farther than my arms can reach. Sure works nice when your doing work overhead. I had a friend that I worked with had is trifocals placed on the top of his lenses for working overhead.

Theirs options out there that may help you, just need to see what works for you.

 

[fxvr5]

Next was reshoot of Promo 4.0-4.2 gr load using 2-7x32 long eye relief scope set at 7x and Caldwell rest (Careful to rest bottom of trigger guard and not dust cover/bottom of rail). Once again, I had to tape up my glasses lifted towards my hearing protector springs overhead so I could use the "reader" portion of glasses at the bottom (Yeah, welcome to my world - Don't get old ). Since I tightened the mount/scope bolts, first two shots seemed to have resettled the mount/scope (Blue lines) and red circle shows subsequent 10 shot group.

Here's another interpretation of your target:

The shot to the far right was the first shot after hand-cycling the gun. Sometimes the first shot from a hand-cycled semi-auto will be 'off' because the gun locks up differently because hand cycling is so much slower than when the gun cycles when fired. The remaining 11 shots are your group of interest. There's no reason to exclude the one hit close to your circled group. You appear to have excluded it arbitrarily.

Which shot was your first shot? The one to the far right or the one you excluded next to the 10 shots you circled?

How many shots did you fire at that target? I see what appears to be a hit on the far left edge of the paper that is partly obscured by the red circle. Was that a hit from your string of shots?

 

[LiveLife]

Here's another interpretation of your target: The shot to the far right was the first shot after hand-cycling the gun. Sometimes the first shot from a hand-cycled semi-auto will be 'off' because the gun locks up differently because hand cycling is so much slower than when the gun cycles when fired. The remaining 11 shots are your group of interest. There's no reason to exclude the one hit close to your circled group. You appear to have excluded it arbitrarily.

Which shot was your first shot?

I shot a magazineful of Promo load to re-zero the scope (or tried to). When I thought the mount had been tightened enough with Allen wrench and settled, I saw the next two shots drift and settle with the 10 rounds inside the circle.

Then the next magazine of IMR Target load produced larger scattered group which is contrary to my previous testing of Target.

At this point, I am going to consider use of rail mount on Glocks with flexible dust cover/rail not consistent enough for reliable accuracy testing. Railed 1911 in 9mm, which I had hoped for with Fusion Firearms complete slide kit, with solid rail would have been better but I have already decided to resume my prototype pistol/rifle machine rest build which would use much better 3-9x40mm Bushnell Trophy/Leupold Marksman/Minox ZV3 and Bushnell D&D 6-18x50mm AO scopes on solid mounts with nylon locking nuts.

 

[fxvr5]

From what I gather from your comments you're making lots of assumptions and only accepting data as 'real' if it meets your assumptions. If it doesn't, you fabricate a reason for excluding hits.

"I saw the next two shots drift and settle with the 10 rounds inside the circle." You want to use ONLY those 10 shots in your group because that's the only group size/pattern you'll accept. You're unwilling to accept that shots outside that circle could be your actual accuracy data. There's no clear reason you exclude the hit immediately to the right of your circle.

You didn't say which of the excluded shots was your first shot.

You didn't answer the question about the hit on the left side of the paper covered by the circle.

 

[LiveLife]

fxvr5, you are the one making assumptions. Re-read my posts.

I "outlined" entire shooting sessions as to what took place chronologically. I am not making assumptions as I simply posted what took place.

Had you read post #65, you would have known my shot group began to experience erratic pattern which I suspected loosening of mount on flexible rail/dust cover of Glock 22 - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...endence-from-work.853305/page-3#post-11211204

"First 25 yard 5 shots with Promo load went better than I thought (Red circle) and then holes started to get erratic. So I figured to tighten the mount/scope bolts and reached for the Allen wrenches in the pocket. But when I found an empty pocket instead, I realized I had changed shorts before leaving the house. "

And here's my Range Test #3 comments.

"I shot a magazineful of Promo load to re-zero the scope (or tried to). When I thought the mount had been tightened enough with Allen wrench and settled (I placed a new sheet of copy paper on cardboard), I saw the next two shots drift and settle with the 10 rounds inside the circle.

Then the next magazine of IMR Target load (On a new sheet of copy paper) produced larger scattered group which is contrary to my previous testing of Target.

At this point, I am going to consider use of rail mount on Glocks with flexible dust cover/rail not consistent enough for reliable accuracy testing"


I do have a complaint.

You know, you seem to pop up and randomly attack my posts out of the blue always questioning what I am doing is wrong. Well, in case you forgot, people post their personal experience (whether right or wrong) on gun forums. It's what people do.

THR is not a science lab conducting accuracy testing under controlled conditions using expensive lab grade equipment. Did you notice I was using a "GLOCK" with flexible rail/dust cover and not solid metal rail like 1911 (which I originally expected to test when I ordered Fusion Firearm's complete 9mm slide that turned out to need machining of slide rails to fit my Sig 1911 frame rails)? I am contemplating other 9mm 1911 options at the moment.

And all I am doing is outlining my retirement reloading projects (Hence the OP title) and chronicling them in detail as much as possible (and documenting them objectively and factually as possible as I had already discussed with Walkalong in a PM to him) to benefit other THR members/guests and provide some amusement while I struggle with life's aging process/medical challenges.

If you are so displeased with THR members' testing methods, as I have posted before many times, why don't you start a new thread and show us how it is supposed to be done?

Hmmm, a quick search and you haven't started a single thread on THR (I wonder why? Do you not appreciate other members commenting on your threads?) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?search/member&user_id=245500&content=thread

BTW, here's list of threads I started (They may not be "perfect" but isn't that what members do on forums? To share knowledge and experience, and for some wisdom and for our case, reloading related information) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?search/38796869/

So this moment forward, unless your comments and requests are indeed appropriate to thread posts, I am putting you on "ignore" and forwarding my complaint to the moderator. < posts copied and reported >

BTW, here's THR forum rules - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?pages/code-of-conduct/

"4. Spamming, trolling, flaming, and personal attacks are prohibited. You can disagree with other members, even vehemently, but it must be done in a well-mannered form. Attack the argument, not the arguer."

 

[fxvr5]

You still didn't answer those 2 questions.

And you are making assumptions in how you evaluate your targets. To bad you can't see that.

 

[LiveLife]

Sorry, you are on < ignore >

And another report made "Continued personal attack of making 'assumptions' after explaining and copy/pasting range report chronicling progression of load/equipment testing."