Reloading Tolerances

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So I've been reloading a little while now and am starting to get better results. I have mainly been loading 44 mag and have started shooting longer distance and my question is about tolerances. I have gotten mixed results, mostly good, but found nothing I can blame more than the operator. Not the gun and not the ammo. My question is when is good enough??? I have trimmed my cases to get a uniform crimp. Is .005 a good +/- tolerance? I have a powder measure with a mic and just got an electronic powder thrower. Is .1 gr +/- close enough? .2 gr? More? Less? When does the law of diminishing returns kick in? What are the things that you find help cartridge accuracy and precision?

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J
 
What's good enough is only for you to decide.

For me, +-.1 gr on the powder is as good as I get.
And to me? that's plenty good enough.

As far as the OAL, it depends on what bullet I'm using & what caliber.
For handgun rounds, using hp bullets, my OAL is better than if I'm using soft point bullets.

Technically, when measuring OAL you should have a tool that measures from the ogive to the base, not the actual OAL.
 
Is .1 gr +/- close enough?

Close enough for me.

Is .005 a good +/- tolerance?

Good enough for me.

What TheGreatDane said is true though. It comes down to what you demand. I am with you, that the shooter is often more at fault than anything else, when a bullet doesn't land where you wanted it to. Especially shooting handguns without a rest. Shooting a rifle off a bench with sandbags is much more precise, and one can easier assess the accuracy of the loads. I suppose you can shoot a handgun from sandgbags to help reduce shooter error for testing the accuracy of a load. I seldom do though. I don't shoot competitively, so don't get anal about small variations like you mention.

If you want to weigh bullets you will see some variation in weight. Same with brass. If you want to get picky, you can sort them into similar batches, load them as a batch and keep each batch separate. Its really not worth it to me. You decide.
 
With my revolvers, I am one of the screw balls who does trim his cases. I like to have my crimps as consistent as possible. That said, I don't weigh my bullets, nor to I tweak the charge to the last freckles worth. I set up my Uniflow to throw the charge weight I want and go for it.

I have found that the minor variances in powder weight usually do not matter with powders like 2400, 110, or 296. I am sure this also applies to other slower powders as well. What has mattered has been the depth of the bullet in the cases along with the crimp setting on them. I like to set mine up so that they are rolling the lip of the case right over the bottom edge of the cannalure. I also don't like to use too much, where it looks like the case is blended into the jacket, but it's simply firmly rolled into place, and you can see it still has a nice sharp edge on the rim.

Using this I have loaded for several calibers in which the handguns and loads are easily way more capable than I am, of putting them into small groups at long ranges. I usually use 50yds as my criteria for accuracy shooting offhand with my hunting revolvers. I feel if I can keep the shots under 3" there I am good enough for the ranges I shoot the most. This is usually pretty easily done, and with a good solid rest shots to 100yds aren't out of the question.

The following picture was a demonstration to my friend on the effects of over crimping his 41mag loads. He loaded the same loads in all of the rounds, however the ones on the left were crimped heavily and the ones on the right were crimped as mentioned above, backed off about 1/8 turn. Both were shot free hand at 40yds and the right group would have been better, but I wasn't accustomed to his wide sights.
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I have found that with each revolver, like rifles, tolerances are different, and that in most cases the crimp along with case tension can and does influence the accuracy just as much as the powder charge or primers used will. When I work up a new load with a different bullet or powder I usually will seat them just to the cannalure, then take my small RCBS press to the range and start with a light crimp and gradually snug it down watching for the best groups. Once there, I will set up a dummy round and use that to set everything up later on. Might seem a bit more than most do, but then again I usually see better groups than what most post up, and at further distances. To me this says plenty, and I know I am not the worlds best shot, or a foremost authority in loading.
 
Another key factor in revolver consistency is controlling the variations between chambers.
 
Sounds plenty good enough for my needs - I am NOT a 1000yard rifle or Bullseye pistol shooter - I load and shoot mid range plinking loads and always can achieve MOD (Minute of Dead) accuracy which is all I need.

I used to worry about minor OAL variances until I put my Harbor Freight digital caliper to work on a box or two of factory ammo in a couple calibers. Loading midrange ammo .2gr powder variances would not be noticeable...... by me anyway - lol - and unless I was using a Ransom rest there are sufficient variables beyond the ammo to change perceived 'accuracy'.

Reloading can be rocket surgery if the reloader wants it to be, it does not however have to be uber-anal. Shooting records have been made with a Lee Loader (whack-a-mole) and the Lee dippers.
 
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