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*REMINDER* I WILL NOT Comply Rally, OLYMPIA, WA. SATURDAY, Dec. 13th

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  1. Mrninninnin

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    Land of the Free, Home of the Brave!!!
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    Good luck, and here's hoping for a good turnout.
     
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    http://blogs.seattletimes.com/polit...ople-at-anti-i-594-rally-for-exchanging-guns/

    "State Patrol: We won’t arrest people at anti-I-594 rally for exchanging guns"

    “We are asking them for good gun-safety practices,” Calkins added, such as handling the weapons safely and not intimidating people.In those cases, there might be other laws that demonstrators would be breaking, and patrol officers will respond accordingly, Calkins added.But, “these are law-abiding folks, they have a political statement,” Calkins said. “We don’t expect a huge problem.”

    God luck to our bretheren in Washington!

    Keep your heads on straight and stay safe!
     
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    Bump for my wandering soul in Massachusetts. Anyone who can reasonably make the trip to Olympia, PLEASE consider doing so. As absurd as it sounds, the number of steps to a set of gun laws like the Commonwealth in which I live are short, and taken in jarring domino effect.
     
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    I'd go if I didn't already have important plans that day. I'm glad they're doing this.

    ETA: never mind, I will be going to this.
     
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    Wish I could be there, but I'm kind of still in school... In florida...

    Best of luck, and keep on fighting the good fight!
     
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    The protestors that plan on doing this are very brave. Personally I wouldn't count on not being arrested since I'm not a TV host who gave money to the right people's re-election bids (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/no-gun-magazine-charges-for-david-gregory-86079.html). I'm also not a gun control activist, so I probably wouldn't just get community service (http://wivb.com/2014/09/22/community-activist-sentenced-for-bringing-gun-in-school/). As they say 'do what your rank will allow you', or in these cases your political connections. Being an average joe I realize that the laws actually apply to me :rolleyes:

    At any rate, thanks to work, I'll have moved out of WA by then, probably permanently. I'm starting to think work did me a favor without realizing it.
     
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    Rosa Parks did what her "rank" wouldn't allow here to do...and she willingly paid the consequences for the greater good.

    God bless those few who take great chances and make great sacrifices for the good of the many.

    Some died by the glenside, some died near a stranger
    And wise men have told us their cause was a failure
    But they fought for old Ireland and never feared danger
    Glory O, Glory O, to the bold Fenian men


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    Not to detract from Rosa Park's stand, but she wasn't the first (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudette_Colvin).

    The guys at this public protest will be the first, and they're doing it at the state capital a week after the law takes effect. They're also risking a felony charge, and I'm sure they'll be on camera (unless the news pretends the rally didn't happen, if enough people show up that's probably exactly what will happen).

    Don't get me wrong, I applaud them, and those like Claudette Colvin and Rosa Parks. I'm just pointing out how much they're risking as I doubt they have the political connections our self appointed elites have.
     
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    Good luck my brothers & sisters.
    Here in CO a similar event was held, after the mag ban passed, although the risk was not as great.
     
  11. Frank Ettin

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    Let's understand the real story of Rosa Parks. Her story is not about simple civil disobedience. It's about a coordinated, multilayer program of protest and legal and political action.

    • Rosa Parks had a long history of being actively involved in the organized Civil Rights Movement:

    • At the time of her arrest Mrs. Parks was an adviser to the NAACP.

    • On 1 December 1955, Rosa Parks was the third African-American since March of that year to be arrested for violating the Montgomery bus segregation law. One was Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl who was arrested some nine months earlier. E. D. Nixon decided that Claudette would be a poor "poster-child" for a protest because she was unmarried and pregnant.

    • The night of Mrs. Parks' arrest, Jo Ann Robinson, head of the Women's Political Council, printed and circulated a flyer throughout Montgomery's black community starting the call for a boycott of Montgomery's city buses.

    • Martin Luther King, Jr., as president of the Montgomery Improvement Association and pastor of the Dexter Avenue Baptist Church, together with other Black community leaders, then organized the boycott of the Montgomery bus system. That boycott reduced Black ridership (the bulk of the bus system's paying customers) of Montgomery city buses by some 90% until December of 1956 when the Supreme Court ruled that the bus segregation laws of Montgomery, Alabama were unconstitutional (Gayle v. Browder, 352 U.S. 903 (1956)).

    • So the Rosa Parks incident is more than a matter of not moving to the back of the bus. Her arrest was part of a well orchestrated, well organized, multilayered program reflecting good planning and political acumen leading to a successful conclusion. If it had not been she would have just been another Black person arrested for violating that ordinance.

    • Please note especially that prior to the Rosa Parks incident E. D. Nixon rejected one "arrestee" as standard bearer for the protect because of possible image problems.
     
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    The parallels with the civil rights movement and the situation in Washington State are pretty tenuous.

    Public sentiments around civil rights were moving in a direction that made laws like Montgomery's more and more anachronistic. Washington's new law is by referendum, presumably reflecting current popular opinion, notwithstanding quite a low voter turnout.

    I suspect the Washington result was as much from apathetic gun owners as Bloomberg's money and a mobilized anti-gun voting bloc. This would have been far easier to stop before it was passed than to fight now that it is here.

    That said, I hope this is a wake up call and a reminder to Washington gun owners that "the world is run by those who show up [at the polls]."
     
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    Also she was a communist and groomed by them
     
  14. Frank Ettin

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    Absolutely. And I've made similar comments regarding the [lack of] parallels between the Civil Rights Movement and the RKBA. I posted because someone else brought up Rosa Parks. And the other half of the lesson she teaches us is that successful advocacy is not based on a single event, but rather on a coordinated campaign.

    So what's going to happen after the rally? Is everyone going to go home and forget about it the next day? Have the organizers planned their next moves?
     
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    I know you have, and I've found them instructive.

    I find myself wondering the same thing. I hope this bad law can motivate gun owners in Washington to mount an coordinated response, and just as importantly, maintain vigilance in future. An ounce of prevention, etc.
     
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    Since law enforcement has said there won't be any arrests for exchanging firearms, there should be no demonstration of exchanging firearms. Without arrests, or at least a threat of arrest, it would only reinforce the position that 2A supporters don't understand I 594 and are making a fuss about nothing. We'd be "paranoid cranks" to the voting public "whining" about nonexistent threats to our liberty. We can't afford that message to be the tagline for the effort.

    OTOH, a well organized event demanding a court challenge to I 594 and an organized effort to recall/replace legislators responsible for I 594 as was done in CO is likely to get positive attention since this last election showed the Antis are vulnerable politically. Placards should be professionally printed as well as "hand" done.

    Would images implying our concern showing fathers and teen sons afield at a fence line or sharing a lane at a range without language about the "transfer" of a firearms raise the question in people's minds without getting us mocked?
     
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