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Remington 1911, would appreciate info about it

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  1. Collin pulke

    Collin pulke Member

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    I am new to this site. I am in search of any info I get can get on this Remington USM 1911 I have inherited. Any info is much appreciated!
     

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    rcmodel Member in memoriam

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    It appears to be a mixed parts gun.
    The frame serial # dates it to a Colt 1911 produced in 1918.

    Remington-UMC only produced two runs of 1911's, and only in 1918, totaling 21,676 guns in all.

    So, your 409,745 serial is way too high to be a Rem-UMC.

    Also the stag grips are not original to a military 1911.

    PS: Welcome to THR!

    rc
     
  3. Collin pulke

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    Thanks
     
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    rcmodel Member in memoriam

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    Your gun also has a 1911A1 arched mainspring housing and long trigger, which are not consistent with a 1918 gun.

    If it were all complete, and frame matched to a Rem-UMC, it would be worth perhaps $3,500 - $4,000.

    The early guns are not really good shooters either, as parts were fairly soft and won't hold up to high volume range use.

    As it is now, its value is the sum of its parts to someone trying to complete either a mismatched Rem-UMC, or Colt from that time period.

    I would put a rough value of $850 - $950 on that one.

    rc
     
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    Plus shoot it and if it is accurate and you like shooting it then there is a win.
     
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    You have a 1911:D

    RC had it pegged.

    Colt frame mfg. 1918.

    Remington-UMC slide mfg. 1918.

    Reconfigured at some point from M1911 to M1911-A1

    My guess is an arsenal rebuild during WW2. That's what they do to military weapons. Finding one in original condition is next to impossible. If you do find one it's worth a lot of money. Yours unfortunately has been pieced together from parts. Probably a combat vet.



    Welcome.
     
  7. Quentin

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    You have a wonderful piece of history from two World Wars. Thanks for posting the nice pictures! As pointed out earlier this shouldn't be shot a lot, but it oozes prior use last century. You can get a new $500 shooter made of stronger steel. This old girl has earned her retirement!
     
  8. hso

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    Locally, a mixed parts 1911 on a Colt lower half like that will sell for $650-$750 (we have a tough 1911 market here in E.TN).

    I think the grips are plastic, but I could be completely wrong.
     
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    My Dad's Colt Woodsman came to me with grips that look just like those and they are definitely plastic. Circa 1950s. You have a handsome classic old piece of history. Leave it just as it is. We all wish it could tell us stories about where it's been.
     
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    As stated by others, a parts gun. However, the long trigger is correct for a M1911, the arched mainspring housing isn't. The flanged hammer is correct and I always have trouble telling a long vs. short horn grip safety without having the two side by side for comparison. (The short horn is correct for a M1911)
    Anybody tell on this one?
     
  11. Bama Drifter

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    To simplify what's been said, you have a 1918 WWI era Rem UMC slide riding on a Colt frame and parts. First and ONLY mod I would suggest, is to snatch off the hideous aftermarket grips and replace w/ period correct "Keyes" fiber grips. These range in price, but start by following link below:
    http://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php?cPath=201_262

    Next thing, on SN, you have a frame that was built by Colt in 1918 according to my "BB Pocket Guide for Colt Dates" by R.L. Wilson. So I would venture to say this was re-arsenaled in the mid 30s before WWII and saw bona fide "action". With extensive pitting and missing original grips, I'd say your sitting @ less than $700. Add the proper grips and you have maybe an $800 pistol.
    Anyway, cool gun. And thanks for posting! :)
     
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