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Remington TAC 13 semi auto 12g thunder stick.

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by MikeInOr, Jun 16, 2019.

  1. MikeInOr

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    I was doing some web surfing today and came across a few recently released shotguns that I had not heard of before. The first was the Armscor (Rock Island Armory) VRB-100 12g semi auto bullpup for under $600.

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    I always thought the Tavor TS12 looked interesting but kind of bulky not to mention expensive. The VRB-100 looks much more streamlined and has 5, 9 and 19 round available magazines. That is some serious street sweeping capability! The biggest complaint appears to be a very heavy trigger which probably isn't too bad of a thing in a defence weapon. Some reviewers are reporting FTF's with really light target loads before the scatter gun has been broken in... but excellent reliability with full power loads even during the break in period. RIA even supplies an extra piston for use with 3" magnum shells.

    While investigating the VRB-100 I stumbled over the Remmington TAC-13.

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    26.5" long, 5+1, 13" barrel and the reviewers are claiming greatly reduced recoil compared to the Shockwave or TAC-14 pumps due to the double piston gas system that not only reduces felt recoil but seems to make for and incrediably reliable autoloader shotgun. 6 rounds put the TAC-13 into revolver round count teritory but with much quicker top offs. To me that Picatinny on the side is just begging for a laser to assist in some serious hip level accuracy. One review explained how the gas system compensates for 3" shells... so I guess the TAC-13 can also handle 3" shells? The only complaints I could find about the TAC-13 is the price.

    I don't think I am ready to change from my trusty XD mod 2 compact in .45acp to a shotgun for home defense... these new shotguns do defintiely intrigue me though! One of my biggest complaints about pumps is my tendancy to short stroke them in the heat of the moment (when the covey of doves are flying overhead). For me I feel a good semi is more reliable than a pump.

    I was kind of surprised that I haven't come across any threads on either of these shotguns yet... maybe I just missed them?
     
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  2. Fiv3r

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    I think the Tac 13 looks cool. I like the idea of a semi over a pump when it comes to the stumpy blasters.

    I think the short not-shotguns have a place for some folks. For me, i like a big ol full size shotgun. Still, if the Tac13 falls in price, i can see myself buying one for fun. Dumping 6 rounds in a couple seconds sounds like fun.
     
  3. FL-NC

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    When I was in the mil, we had very short shotguns like this that we exclusively used to defeat door locks. For antipersonnel use, we had Benelli autos and Mossberg 590 police style shotguns. I just don't see a practical use for one of these very short scatterguns for anything but ballistic breaching.
     
  4. DukeConnor

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    I don't understand the purpose of the ventilated rib
     
  5. Fiv3r

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    It's for when you are shooting clay pigeons the size of poker chips.
     
  6. entropy

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    It's not meant to be shot from the hip, and a light would be a better thing to attach to the rail.

    https://www.remington.com/other-products/v3-tac-13

    Watch the video on the Tac-13 page. You push forward with the front hand, and pull rearward the other; If not you end up busting your own chops.
     
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    Who cares? It looks good.
     
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  8. MikeInOr

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    I believe there is a small picatiny on each side so there would room for a flashlight and a laser. I never really considered a laser worthwhile until I put one on my lite weight 10/22 build with an underfolding stock. I am amazed at what I can hit from shooting at the hip with the aid of the laser.

    I found a video review of a couple guys shooting the tac 13 from the hip and they were doing quite well with out any kind of site. They also had no problem shooting it from the hip and commented they never liked shooting the Shockwave from the hip but the Tac-13 is a much softer shooter.

    I do agree if I ever bought a Tac-13 it would be a toy without much practical purpose for me... as I am much more comfortable with the maneuverability of a pistol. It still seems like the coolest thunder stick I have seen.

    P.s. I imagine the vented rib is mainly for aesthetics... and I do think it is a nice looking little gun.
     
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    Shooting from the hip at hallway distances would be more than effective based on what my Tac-14 does to a target at those distances.

    And the pull push method works very well in an aiming position.
     
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  10. rodinal220

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    I haven't shot one of these yet, still on the fence about getting one because of Remington's QC problems. I have shot the original Versa-Max when it first came out and it was one of the lightest recoiling shotguns I have fired. I have NO DOUBT as to the utility and practicality of these types of firearms. Still waiting for Mossberg to figure out how to make the 930 work in this size platform.

    Take a look at this video if you are interested in these:

     
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  11. entropy

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    A good video, but he forgets to mention his POA; we are supposed to assume it is the POI, but that's not where I'd shoot at, and if it was where he was aiming at, I'd be interested to hear why. I still think it is best employed as a lock pick, but for a small apt. it'd work. Not a good truck gun for most states; must be unloaded in most states due to game laws. (which is the precise reason I went with an AR pistol instead; I can keep it loaded in my vehicle in WI, as I have a CCW.)
     
  12. Balrog

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    Its not classified as a shotgun, so I am not sure it would have to be kept unloaded in a vehicle.
     
  13. entropy

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    It's not classified as a pistol, so in WI, it would be. Other states may differ.
     
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