Reside in CA & NV to buy guns?

[gunsmith]

A pal owns a ranch out in NV and has said I can get a NV State ID card,keep my CA license and buy whatever gun that I want and keep it at his place.
Of course the AK clone or AR type would stay there,what about pistols?
would they be legal in CA?

 

[7.62FullMetalJacket]

Depends on the meaning of "legal."

If you register with DOJ then it should not be a problem. Explaining how you got them might be but I think DOJ registration would be the ticket.

Do they meet the "drop test" criteria? A non-Californian may import guns not on the list, but Californians may not have them Again, depending on the means of "importation" (i.e. inheritance, gift, just cause I wanted to), you may have a problem.

ihearthatcompliancewiththeAWregistrationisminimal

 

[cosmos7]

This is something I tried to find an answer for about a year ago. What is the Fed's stance on dual residence?

 

[carp killer]

If you have a CA drivers license, you belong to california. I have NEVER heard of dual residency. If someone knows how, please explain.

 

[gunsmith]

Well

having a drivers license in 2 states is against the law,I found this out when I had my brother run a check on me,he's a cop in NY and I used to have a FL license as well as a CA,the FL license has since expired.

With the AW ban (hopefully) sunsetting soon I want to buy a few things before they ban them again.

I can't see as how they can have a problem with me having an ID with out a DL,why can't a person live in one state and work in another? or have a residence,say a ranch where he works for a few months in the summer?

 

[railroader]

I know someone who is a california resident but goes to school in arizona. He has a california drivers license and an arizona picture ID card. He can purchase firearms in arizona with the ID card. I think there is a form for registering handguns when you "move" back into the state of california. It probably wouldn't be a good idea to do this on a regular basis. Mark

 

[EOD Guy]

This is something I tried to find an answer for about a year ago. What is the Fed's stance on dual residence?

It is legal to have residence in more than one state. I live in California most of the year but also own a home in Arizona which I live in for 6-8 weeks a year. While I am actually living in the Arizona home, it is legal for me to purchase firearms in Arizona, under both Arizona and Federal law. However, just getting an address in another state in order to get around restrictions in the law would not meet the criteria of having a residence in that state. You would be asking for trouble.

Here is the BATF answer from their web site:

(B13) May a person who resides in one state and owns property in another state purchase a handgun in either state?

If a person maintains a home in 2 states and resides in both states for certain periods of the year, he or she may, during the period of time the person actually resides in a particular state, purchase a handgun in that state. But simply owning property in another state does not qualify the person to purchase a handgun in that state.

 

[carp killer]

If a person maintains a home in 2 states and resides in both states for certain periods of the year, he or she may, during the period of time the person actually resides in a particular state, purchase a handgun in that state. But simply owning property in another state does not qualify the person to purchase a handgun in that state.

How is the BATFE going to know that you were ACTUALLY, physically on your out of state property? Or is this one of those "grey areas". An FFL will ask for the DRIVERS LICENSE as proof or residency. I have never heard of a state ID card used as proof of residency.

 

[7.62FullMetalJacket]

While the burden of proof should be on the government to prove otherwise, sadly, that is not the case. We are in an ever increasing environment where the accused is required to prove such.

In this case, a simple utility bill from the residence would suffice. Say you bought the gun in Arizona in June. You show that the electricity bill in June was significantly larger than some other months when you were not there.

In Utah, pre-CFL for me, one must provide a DL AND some other form to show residency. I just used the truck registration. With a CFL, no such silliness occurs.

 

[ke6guj]

Nevada issues "seasonal resident" ID cards that you could obtain without having to surrender your CA DL. As long as you are able to establish "residence" at your friend's ranch, you should be legal.

From http://www.pawnplace.com/LVGS.html

According to the NHP, Nevada and BATF are recognizing the Nevada 'Seasonal' ID card, as long as it has your Nevada address on it, for proper ID to purchase a firearm, so long as you reside here part time and during that time of your residence here. To get this 'Seasonal' ID, you will need to take a state issued ID from another state (which WILL be returned to you on the spot) and $20.50 and a social security card to the DMV. We can now take this form of ID as long as it has a Nevada address on it.

 

[EOD Guy]

How is the BATFE going to know that you were ACTUALLY, physically on your out of state property? Or is this one of those "grey areas". An FFL will ask for the DRIVERS LICENSE as proof or residency. I have never heard of a state ID card used as proof of residency.

Actually, it is quite common. The law doesn't require a driver's license to establish residency. It requires a government issued picture identification document. In some cases, additional documentation, such as a utility bill or vehicle registration, may be required.

 

[carp killer]

Thanks, this is good to know.

 

[gunsmith]

Thank you Sir's

this is "all good" SF is real close to Reno so that is good for us here in SF,PRK.
I am even luckier,my pal has a ranch way out in the boonies.