Response to Ebay banning gun related items

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I saw an ad for Weight Watchers on one of the Ebay pages. It also looks like they have a deal with Mastercard. Should these guys be contacted?
 
That's too bad, I've bought some really neat stuff on ebay, and saved a bunch of money doing it. Well, at least The Boss won't be complaining about "all that junk you buy on ebay" anymore.

Email sent, account closed (ebay and paypal)
 
here's my email:

I've had an eBay account for several years, under the name "shadowflareindustries". I have 100% feedback, and I've more or less been satisfied with your website and the service it provides. However, I cannot abide by the blatant political pandering that your new firearms policy represents. I've closed my account, and am telling all of my friends and relatives to do the same. I will not do business with an organization that claims to market everything, but bans the sale of firearms and firearms parts/accessories because of a nonexistent safety issue. Good day.
 
What a piss-off... You send an email that you thought out long and hard and the guy is sending out 'automated responses'...
Nice customer service.
Obviously they have been overwhelmed with opposition of the decision and are not going to change their minds. Pretty sure that this is the case becuase of the automated response.

It would be funny if so many people dropped thier accounts because of this decision that enough of the ebay execs would notice, and then have a little chat with mr halprin.
 
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First off I am glad to see many here understand the magnitude of the Ebay presence and dont just spout off like a raving lunatic. I just posted the form letter response and Halprin's e-mail on the Ebay message board. There appears to be just as much disgust on the Ebay boards. Thats good news I guess.
 
Sent Email

Here is what I sent them:

Mr. Halprin,

I’ve recently learned about a decision by “your company” to restrict the sale of ALL parts for firearms, weapons, and knives. Part of your canned response to others is “we have always valued an open and transparent marketplace; if items are legal to buy and sell in an unrestricted manner we allow them on our site. However, there are some items that while legal, may not be safe for our marketplace. In these instances, our applicable policies go beyond the law to ensure that our marketplace is safe.”

How can a company so innovative be so narrow minded? I’ve seen students in school stabbed with a pencil. We did not ban pencils in schools; we simply dealt with those causing the problem. Am I to assume that any item that could possibly be used as a weapon or part thereof will now be banned from being sold on eBay? I would ask you to reconsider. While small, the only recourse I would have is to consider not doing business with eBay and Pay Pal as well as inform previous and potential sellers as to why I will no longer be doing business with them via eBay, if this policy is implemented. And yes, most sellers have websites where the same items can be purchased directly. Again, I would like to see you reconsider as your company seems to have the greatest to loose. Lastly, please do me the courtesy of not replying with the same canned answer you have sent others, even if it means not replying at all.

Regretfully,


Frank Matthews
Rocky Mount, NC
eBay member since August 2001
83 transactions with a feedback rating of 100


I plan to drop my accounts and sell items via other venues. If I see something on eBay, most of the largers sellers have a seperate website to do business. It probably won't amount to a drop in the bucket to eBay but I refuse to sit by and take this crap from them. I'll decide what is safe or not safe! Venting over...now I fell better! :)
 
Not deleted, moved, like several others, to the General thread on Ebay as a better fit. General discussion of a topic and complaints aren't part of the Activism threads. When there's a parallel thread in General the generalized posts may get moved there or deleted. I thought you'd rather it be moved than lost. See the "How this works" stickie at the top of Activism for more details.
 
OK,

Before canceling my pay pal account, I'm just wondering if there are any legitimate competitors to Pay Pal which I can transfer my business to.
 
Dear Mr Halprin,

I've just learned of eBay's new "no gun parts" policy. I am quite
disappointed. Why do you still allow car parts? Cars are involved in
many more deaths than guns.

A gun-part ban beyond what is necessary for you to conduct lawful
business is prejudicial and offensive. I urge you to reconsider this
policy.

Best Regards,
Wayne Conrad
 
Before canceling my pay pal account, I'm just wondering if there are any legitimate competitors to Pay Pal which I can transfer my business to.

I think Google has a service, but with most folks using Paypal, it's not much of a competitor.

Chris
 
Complaint e-mail sent, no response. :banghead:
My 100% positive feedback (very old) ebay account closed
PayPal account closed
ebay stock sold
 
If you use Ebay to sell items and are going to close it, tell them you sent the proceeds of the last sale prior to closing to the NRA-ILA. :)
 
dear mr halprin,
obviously you hve not thought out your actions or your response to the many emails i am sure you have gotten from gun advocates. you seem to indicate that the gun parts that you and others sell are the cause of gun related crime. that is a completely undefendable view. the cause of gun related crime is obviously criminals who use guns. when legal means of obtaining gun parts, ammunition etc go away they do not stop using guns, they just switch to, if not already using, illegal means of obtaining the items they want. they only people who suffer from those actions are the law abiding who do often times prevent or lesson the effeects of crime commited by the criminals. if you yourself havs it against owning guns say so. dont change your policies to the detriment of gun owners and use "safer" as a lame excuse. i also, along with thousands if not millions will not be using ebay again unless this policy is reversed.

thank you

this is the email that i sent ot ebay and will show response when received.
 
I have never been registered with ebay, so will sending them a letter expressing my disappointment be effective?
 
Every voice, regardless of affiliation with Ebay, carries weight by adding numbers balancing out the gun prohibitionists.
 
I posted my email on the general thread here. I've not yet received a reply back, so it's going out to Halprin's email rather than thru their comments link. When I get the canned response, I know EXACTLY what I'm going to tell them in my reply, but it's not High Road. Suffice to say bye-bye eBay and PayPal.

Matt King, sure it would be, all you have to do is send a message saying there were several items you were wanting to purchase, but doggone it, you seen the firearms policy and said rats, gotta go some where else, what a pain, but I'm sure the store will appreciate the extra money, because it sure was worth it for you to NOT support eBay's idioc............. decision.
 
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Emailed Ebay, but don't really see 'em changing much...

I've sold a fair bit of spare brass to reloaders in the past year. Guess that is about to change. I will try doing it here to guage interest and if the mod's allow it in the classified section.

Patty
 
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