Retro Mosin Nagant sporter.

[Loosenock]

Here is an interesting sporterization of a Remington made Mosin Nagant. I think it was sporterized during the "Golden Age" of Mosin Nagant sporterizing back in the 1920's early '30's. Bannerman converted large amounts to 30-06 but this one is still the russian round.

Note how the pistol grip was fitted into the original stock.

Any information on these early sporters would be appreciated. Also identifying the cocking piece peep sight.







Thanks

Loose

 

[Ohio Gun Guy]

That is a neat looking rifle.... Interested to see what those in the know say about this.

 

[j1]

Nice gun really good pics of the pistol grip. Enjoy and thanks for sharing with us.

 

[bannockburn]

That's definitely a nifty looking sporterization, especially for a Mosin. In his book, Bolt Action Rifles, Frank de Haas mentions in the section on the Mosin Nagant that years ago there were two decent receiver sights for the rifle: one called the "Little Giant" from King, and one made by Lyman. The one made by King was an adjustable peep sight which was mounted on the top of the cocking piece.

 

[musicman10_1]

That is a sporter that I could own.

 

[lefteyedom]

Very nice,,,

 

[56hawk]

I cry whenever I see a rifle like this. Someone turned a $800 rifle into a $100 rifle. Of course back when it was done no one knew how collectable it would become.

 

[BluegrassDan]

I cry whenever I see a rifle like this. Someone turned a $800 rifle into a $100 rifle. Of course back when it was done no one knew how collectable it would become.

...and where have you seen an $800 Mosin Nagant?

 

[56hawk]

...and where have you seen an $800 Mosin Nagant?

It's a Remington.

There is one on Gunbroker with an opening bid of $495. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=318468632

 

[snakeman]

american made osins are worth a lot more than ruskies

 

[ColtPythonElite]

Cool old gun. I could care less about worth in dollars. I can appreciate what a craftsman did years ago to make a piece better suited for a job.

 

[rust collector]

I don't reckon Loosenock would take $100 for that gun, and maybe not $800 either. Guns of the type are made to be used, and that specimen speaks volumes about our gun history and our ability to make something designed for other purposes do something completely different.

I agree that most of the old iron should remain in its original state, but good deer rifles were scarce and expensive back in the postwar years. The nicest specimens were always the first to go. Many of the conversions exhibited far better craftsmanship than the original article. It's great to be able to enjoy them in whatever state we find them.

 

[mr.trooper]

Boyds offers a similar classic style sporter stock.

If somone started offering a set of bolt on peep sites similar to those antiques, it would open up a lot of possibilities.

 

[mp510]

As much as I dislike the concept of sporterizing, that is a really cool piece of worksmanship

 

[caribou]

Not Bannermans, but definitly a good job of not makeing a Good rifle into a Bad rifle, as long as it hits where you aim and repeats that as you desire.

I would never chop a fine ,or bad, full military Miosin myself, and I do not object to a fine rifle being modifyed to ones taste, but bolt on bolt handles, odd scope mounts that have scopes of dubios quality and plastic stocks are just not for me, and make the 'Killing Tool" less beautifull. Some chop jobs can be saved, some are total wastes of an excellent Rifle bought at bargin prices.

I have an astetic for a Beautifull Killing Tool, depending on the tool, be it gun, knife, harpoon, club, its that they are clean, sharp, sighted in and in perfect repair, awaiting use.
In that condition, they are Beautifull

 

[wristtwister]

The other posters are right about the "American Mosins" being more valuable... we have a "Westinghouse" contract gun at the shop. I think it sells for about $500 or $600.

Of course, if the alterations were done on this gun, and it was a "Russian" Mosin, he only has 17 million of them to choose from. If he used a bolt from another gun to mount his sight, he's probably got both an "unusual" one, and an "original"... if not, he's got 1 in 17 million... Either way works for me.

WT

 

[ThorinNNY]

Very nice.How`s it shoot?

 

[Loosenock]

Thanks for all your replies gents, they're very appreciated. Some great comments and points to think and ponder on.

rust collector: you are correct when you say that I probably wouldn't take a $100 or maybe even $800 for the rifle. Being retired and still remembering the old school of the old'n days I've been hooked on the classic looks of the firearms of Griffin & Howe, Sedgley, Holland and Holland, and the sporters produced by U.S. Springfield Armory known as the "Springfield Sporters". Any of those mentioned sporters could easily go into the mid 4 digit price range. Expensive enough that you might not think about hunting with them along the crags, ridges and dark timber of the high country. Here.....I've got a rifle with the classic lines I like, with a caliber that is plenty adequate for deer and elk at a sheer fraction of the cost of a G&H sporter. I have cheap plinking ammo available and I reload that caliber for anything I care to shoot at. I couldn't be happier with it.

ThorinNNY: I just got it the other day and a patch down the barrel. It has a beautiful bright bore...perfect. But I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet. I'm going to my property on Wednesday to shoot it. I'm expecting it to do well....maybe 3" groups with Czech milsurp ammo.....maybe better with Sierra MatchKing 174 grain handloads.

caribou: I agree..this is not a Bannerman's. I know that there were a few fine gunsmiths in Canada who also sporterized Mosins. Seems like the 7.62 x 54r round was accepted better there. At the time I think this gun was sporterized (20's-30's) the .30-40 Kraig and .30-06 was more popular with US sportsmen. So I wouldn't be surprized if this came out of Canada.

just my thoughts....others will vary.

I would appreciate any knowledge or discussion anyone may wish to contribute in help identifying this rifle.

'loose