someguy2800
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If I were in the same situation I would use it as an excuse to get a 338. I agree, if your going to get another rifle for sake of having a larger caliber you might as well step up to the next weight class.
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If I were in the same situation I would use it as an excuse to get a 338. I agree, if your going to get another rifle for sake of having a larger caliber you might as well step up to the next weight class.
Tim Pierce
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I've decided to use it as an excuse to buy a Tikka T3x with stainless barrel and composite stock. As I approach retirement I'll be planning more of this type of hunt, incuding elk, so the Tikka should serve me well.
I believe the outfitter was more worried about a good blood trail than anything after I re-read his email regarding caliber. He has much more experience with moose than I, so I will do my part with the recommended gun and give them every opportunity to provide me a successful hunt! Thanks to all your advice.
I believe the outfitter was more worried about a good blood trail than anything after I re-read his email regarding caliber. He has much more experience with moose than I, so I will do my part with the recommended gun and give them every opportunity to provide me a successful hunt! Thanks to all your advice.
Legionnaire
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Have a great trip ... and remember that we will want pictures from a successful hunt!
Oh, and what cartridge did you settle on?
Oh, and what cartridge did you settle on?
Tim Pierce
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Oops, .300 Win mag. And Ill put a limbsaver on the rifle. Now to buy a scope.
WisBorn
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WisBorn
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I have a hard time with someone saying the that the 30-06 is ok and the 308win is not. Yes the 06 has a little more power, but with the today's bullets it is more than capable for moose at sensible ranges
If a new rifle fits the bill look at the stainless Savage 16/116 in 300 win short mag. Very close to the 300mag. More power than the 06 or 7mm rem mag. The rifle weight is light enough to carry all day, but settles in nice when it is time to shoot.
If a new rifle fits the bill look at the stainless Savage 16/116 in 300 win short mag. Very close to the 300mag. More power than the 06 or 7mm rem mag. The rifle weight is light enough to carry all day, but settles in nice when it is time to shoot.
Garandimal
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Do yourself a favor - and have some 180 gr. NP loaded down to 300 H&H specs..
Good luck w/ your hunt.
GR
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As stated before, I would try to find a more knowledgeable outfitter first. If that isn't possible and he recommends, not requires, something larger, I would tell him to pound sand and take my .308 and .270, unless you just want a reason to buy another rifle.
I've heard it repeated many times, by experienced big game hunters and outfitters alike: "Its better to use a rifle that you are familiar with and can shoot accurately than a magnum that you can't." A 300 WM kicks pretty good; some people can handle it, others not so much. A bad shot is a bad shot no matter how powerful the cartridge is.
Good luck on your hunt. Going to Newfoundland is quite an adventure!
Good luck on your hunt. Going to Newfoundland is quite an adventure!
d2wing
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Sounds like a great choice. Good luck on your hunt.
mustanger98
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I remember Jim Shokey on tv saying he'd rather see a client show up comfortable with their .270 than scared of their .338.
I'm not real familiar with .300H&H, so I'd have to look it up, but that sounds like a good idea.
armedwalleye
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Dad shot his with a .300..... a .300 Savage.... yep, with carefully tailored handloads pushing 180 grain Hornaday Interlocks, but a .300 Savage nonetheless.
Not proof of anything only that the kill is mostly dependent on how tight the nut is at the butt end of the rifle and how confident and accurate he is.
Not proof of anything only that the kill is mostly dependent on how tight the nut is at the butt end of the rifle and how confident and accurate he is.
Garandimal
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.308/ 180 gr. at ~ 2880 fps, so the external ballistics are that of the .270 WCF/ 150 gr., abit with a little more energy, and only ~ 8 lb-ft (40%) more recoil.
Probably killed everything on the planet - before the std. length magnums showed up.
GR
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WTBguns10kOK
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.308 is fine...don't listen to the guide
Your guide may have just wanted to provide you with a reason to pick up a nice new rifle. The T3x is a dandy, and 300 win mag is a classic that you can learn to shoot well if you are young and will put in the time to get to know it. You will make some great memories on that hunt, and you are wise to prepare for the physical as well as the accuracy challenges. Looking forward to pictures!
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We are all quite right about the ballistics, but one should never over look the opportunity to purchase another rifle.
WisBorn
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Very true!!@
DM~
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The hilarious part of that is, high end loads in a 30-06 "these days", are the same as the old 300 H&H loads...
May as well just get the 30-06 in the first place.
For those that keep saying the 308 being all that a 30-06 is.... I like 200NP's for moose and that's where the 308 and the 30-06 part ways... I'd MUCH rather have the added velocity of the 30-06 over the 308 when using heavy bullets...
At least that's what I've come up with, after 25+ moose kills under my belt...
DM
illinoisburt
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Thinking about why the guide might have this opinion. It's possible the common 308 ammo where the guide lives is the standard 150 grain for deer, while the 30-06 is mostly 180 grain. Not terribly uncommon in smaller towns to have limited choices which may have colored his viewpoint if folks used inappropriate bullets in the past with poor results
There are outfitters and then there are outfitters. One equipped me with a .375H&H and handloaded, extra low recoil SP ammo for a PACHYDERM HUNT. While caliber was appropriate the ammo should've been hot solids. Needless to say, after putting literally half a dozen bullets exactly where the vitals were and failing to reach them due to completely inadequate penetration, I've insisted on choosing my own rifle and ammo.
Moose, on the other hand... is a very soft target and easy to kill. Whatever you feel comfortable with and objectively can do the job will most likely be just fine.
Moose, on the other hand... is a very soft target and easy to kill. Whatever you feel comfortable with and objectively can do the job will most likely be just fine.
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