RMR Bullets or Berry's bullets

[Gottcha]

I started out buying Hornaday 9mm FMJ RN and have found a good load with them but they are expensive buying only 100 at a time. Soooooo which would be better RMR bullets http://rmrbullets.com/shop/bullets-...9mm-124-gr-fmj-new-round-nose/?v=7516fd43adaa

or https://rmrbullets.com/shop/bullets...flat-point-plated-bullets-new/?v=7516fd43adaa

Or Berrys https://www.berrysmfg.com/item/bp-9mm-356-124gr-rn

RMR FMJ looks similar to Hornadays buy the others are cheaper...... these are for paper punching (accuracy matters) I plan on buying 1000 at a time to increases the cost savings.

 

[bbqreloader]

I have used the RMR 124's and liked them. I do buy the 115gr FMJ homemade and really enjoy shooting those.
Would it be an option to buy 250 of each and test em?? See what you like.

 

[Buck60]

Big RMR fan here . I have ran 4 or 5 thousand 124 gr fmj 9mm and about the same in 55 gr .224 fmjbt . I have used berry's also but found the RMR more to my liking.

 

[Gottcha]

RMR seems to be winning so far! I do like the idea for FMJ and that is what I have been loading. I don't have enough experience to know if plated with act the same.

 

[Fine Figure of a Man]

I have used both Berry's and RMR. Both work well. You may want to give coated bullets a try. They are cheaper than plated and perform as well or better. I loaded thousands in several calibers from light 9mm to heavy 44 mag loads.

 

[ColtPythonElite]

X2 on coated. I have shot about 4k coated bullets thru a .357 without cleaning it. The barrel has no leading.

 

[Walkalong]

These shoot really well.

http://rmrbullets.com/shop/bullets-...w-point-rr-plated/?v=7516fd43adaa#prettyPhoto

http://www.xtremebullets.com/9mm-124-HP-p/xc9mm-124hp-b0500.htm

http://www.tjconevera.com/po9mm12hpplb.html

These shoot great.

http://rmrbullets.com/shop/bullets-...rmr-jacketed-hollow-point-new/?v=7516fd43adaa

I have some of all of them.

 

[Starr1der]

Check out Extreme bullets if you insist on plated; I have used them and like them a lot, even more than RMR or Berry's. Have you considered coated bullets? I use Acme bullets, but there are a number of other places making them, and they load the same as plated or lead. Blue bullets, SNS casting, Missouri bullets, Precision bullets, Leatherhead bullets, Eggleston Munitions; there are a number of good choices. I personally use Acme's 115 gn RN lipstick bullets, 124 gn RN bullets, the 122 gn flat points (basically, you use 124 gn numbers), 145 RN and 147 FP. By the way-all are bright red (hence lipstick), but other companies make other colors. They are tough; you can take a torch to them, or hit them with a hammer and not break the coating. Shop around; I can get 124 gn RN for 6.5 cents ea for 3000, or $71/1,000 plus shipping; and they occasionally run a free shipping sale. Almost always cheaper than plated and if you get different colors, a great conversation piece.
Just my 2 cents worth- remember, free advice is always worth what you pay.

 

[LiveLife]

give coated bullets a try. They are cheaper than plated

Not always. When shopping for bullets, consider final shipped price and bulk pricing.

I have shot all the bullets you listed and for me, out of the 3 choices you listed, I would suggest buying 3000 of 124 gr RMR FMJ. With 5% THR discount (use thehighroad5 Promo code and enter your THR ID in the order comment box), price lowers to $77.90 / 1000 shipped - http://rmrbullets.com/shop/bullets-...9mm-124-gr-fmj-new-round-nose/?v=7516fd43adaa

I have shot Montana Gold jacketed bullets for USPSA matches by choice due to quality and consistency and RMR manufactured 115/124 gr FMJ are impressive with very consistent construction and bullet to bullet weight variance around 0.5 grain (I used 1 grain variance for match shooting). At $77.90 per thousand (3000 bulk price), great price for great bullets. RMR also sizes 9mm bullets they manufacture in-house slightly larger than .355" to reduce gas leakage for greater accuracy.


If your barrel's groove-to-groove diameter is oversized at .356"+, I would consider going with .356" sized 115 gr RMR HC Match RN at $74.10 / 1000 shipped with THR 5% discount as larger sizing will provide better bullet to barrel fit and improve accuracy - https://rmrbullets.com/shop/bullets...ore-match-round-nose-plated-2/?v=7516fd43adaa

Our 9mm 115 grain hardcore bullets are sized to .356″ ... plating is measured between .012-.014″ thick ... They also have a harder lead core (11-12 BHN) ... 1500 fps

The larger sizing with harder 11-12 BHN core will produce greater neck tension to resist bullet setback during feeding/chambering from the magazine for more consistent chamber pressures. Thicker .012"-.014" plating allows use of full jacketed load data without losing accuracy (With regular thickness plated bullets, accuracy decreased above mid range jacketed load data for me).

FYI, not all plated bullets have the same thickness of plating or fps rating - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...ng-at-25-50-yards.808446/page-2#post-10334678

As Walkalong and others posted, Flat Nose/Hollow Point bullets are preferred for greater accuracy due to longer bullet base that shifts the center of mass towards the base for improved rotational stability in flight (reason why bullseye match shooters prefer JHP bullets over FMJ) and longer bullet base provides greater neck tension to reduce/prevent bullet setback when seated deeper in the case where case wall is thicker. But you need to consider cost vs slight increase in accuracy from bullet selection. If reliable feeding is required, I would suggest FMJ/RN nose profile over FN/HP.

Keep in mind that it's not the finished OAL/COL that matters but the "chambered" OAL that will ultimately affect chamber pressure and resulting accuracy which will decrease shot group size and flyers.

 

[LiveLife]

I do like the idea for FMJ and that is what I have been loading. I don't have enough experience to know if plated will act the same.

I have gotten greater accuracy from thick plated Berry's HBRN-TP and RMR HC Match bullets compared to FMJ bullets so you really need to do comparison tests to see how they perform in your pistol - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...n-9mm-40s-w-45acp.799231/page-4#post-10338994

PM me and I can send you an assortment of bullets for you to do comparison tests.

I have plenty of the following:

- Berry's regular plated and HBRN-TP (thick plated)
- Hornady HAP
- Hunting Shack Munitions plated
- PowerBond plated
- Rainier Ballistics plated
- Rocky Mountain Reloading plated and jacketed
- Winchester jacketed
- X-Treme regular and heavy plated

 

[z7]

the RMR 115 FMJ "in house made" bullets have shot really well for me in 4 different Glock's, two factory barrels and two lone wolf barrels with a mildish load of BE-86. I don't think you can go wrong with them, supporting a good, smaller company, cheap, accurate and well made.

 

[hollywood63]

I use a lot of Xtreme with no issues

 

[papaairbear]

Another big RMR fan here, too. For FMJ, they're my primary source. 115 gr made by RMR for $79/k, 124 gr JHP for $116/k. Plus Longday Jake has graciously extended members here a 5% discount.

 

[Gottcha]

Thanks for all the replys! I got called into work fridaynight/and Saturday morning not much sleep in the last two days. bds thanks for the offer but I'd have to send you something. I'm think about ordering a couple hundred of each and that should give me plenty of playing around so I can really see which is better. I can only get out to a range about every other week so that makes testing go kinda slow.

 

[ColoradoShooter77]

I have to recommend RMR as well, it has become my go-to for bullets.

 

[GaryL]

I've used both. Typically, one would have a sale or something, and I had a little $ in the reloading kitty, so that's the way it went. Have a friend who swears by the Berry's hollow base. I found a load that works well for me using RMR, so that's the direction my ship has turned. I'll have to re-evaluate when the powder for that load runs out, since it's obsolete now (bulk buy from over 10 years ago - some old guy selling off stuff).

 

[longdayjake]

Xtreme has steadily gotten worse. Their delivery times are now consistently two weeks to a month or more. Their quality has been spotty for a while with diameters ranging from .353-359" They produce the most bullets by far but if you want better service and better bullets than Berry's is by far the better choice. I own RMR so I won't say anything about our stuff, just that between xtreme and berry's, the berry's win.

Check out Extreme bullets if you insist on plated; I have used them and like them a lot, even more than RMR or Berry's. Have you considered coated bullets? I use Acme bullets, but there are a number of other places making them, and they load the same as plated or lead. Blue bullets, SNS casting, Missouri bullets, Precision bullets, Leatherhead bullets, Eggleston Munitions; there are a number of good choices. I personally use Acme's 115 gn RN lipstick bullets, 124 gn RN bullets, the 122 gn flat points (basically, you use 124 gn numbers), 145 RN and 147 FP. By the way-all are bright red (hence lipstick), but other companies make other colors. They are tough; you can take a torch to them, or hit them with a hammer and not break the coating. Shop around; I can get 124 gn RN for 6.5 cents ea for 3000, or $71/1,000 plus shipping; and they occasionally run a free shipping sale. Almost always cheaper than plated and if you get different colors, a great conversation piece.
Just my 2 cents worth- remember, free advice is always worth what you pay.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

Well I will say something about RMR bullets. Everything sold there is exactly what they claim it is or better. The price is right and if there is a problem we have direct access to the owner here on this forum. Most times their FMJ bullets cost no more than the plated bullets from other makers.

 

[Bartojc]

Not to argue RMR at all, they are a good product. I just wanted to say that I've used thousands of Berry's and not had one issue with them. All for plinking, and all in 9mm.

-Jeff

 

[Doublehelix]

Xtreme has steadily gotten worse. Their delivery times are now consistently two weeks to a month or more. Their quality has been spotty for a while with diameters ranging from .353-359" They produce the most bullets by far but if you want better service and better bullets than Berry's is by far the better choice. I own RMR so I won't say anything about our stuff, just that between xtreme and berry's, the berry's win.

Yeah, I bought some of the Xtreme plated bullets for their Black Friday sale, and it took about 3 weeks to get them. I have not inspected them yet to check on the diameters, but after reading your post, I think I am going to put a few through the calipers to see what I can find.

 

[bullseye308]

I've shot a few thousand of RMR bullets in 9mm and they are the most consistent of any I have tried in years. They are all I will use and I cast my own and still keep a few thousand RMR's on hand because a couple of my 9's shoot them so well. Come tax time I'm getting a few thousand more.

 

[Walkalong]

I have some RMR 90 & 124 Gr JHPs and they shoot very well at a good price point. I just prepped 500 cases to load some of the 90 Gr JHPs in. I have 300 prepped for the 124s. (The 124 plated HCM HP is also very good)

I have had good luck with Berrys and X-Tremes, maybe I have been lucky and haven't gotten a bad batch of X-Tremes, or maybe that has happened since I bought mine.

 

[Hondo 60]

I have used both Berry's and RMR. Both work well. You may want to give coated bullets a try. They are cheaper than plated and perform as well or better.

Exactly my experience as well.

 

[Fine Figure of a Man]

I can use coated bullets that cost less for anything I have ever loaded with plated bullets.
Coated bullets have a higher velocity than plated with the same powder charge in anything I have tried.
In 10 or 12 different handguns I've tried, coated bullets are as accurate if not more accurate than plated, jacketed or lead.
Coated bullets can be loaded to higher velocities than plated. In 357, 41 and 44mag I can use the same charge as maximum for jacketed.
For all these reasons I consider plated bullets obsolete.

 

[Gottcha]

Well I just pulled the trigger on some RMR 124gr round nose plated bullets. I'll update when I get them and how they shoot. Thanks again for all the info!