S.F. Supervisors approve new anti-gun laws

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3 new laws: one bans gun shows, one requires handguns to be locked up at home, another requires gun stores to do an inventory every 6 months (only 1 shop in the city). This was approved by the city-county Board of Supervisors, and is an attempt to pass gun laws that won't get struck down as Prop H did.

http://www.ktvu.com/news/13750022/detail.html

SF Supes Approve Scaled-Back Gun Laws

POSTED: 12:11 am PDT July 25, 2007

SAN FRANCISCO -- The Board of Supervisors passed an array of gun laws Tuesday that followed a judge's decision last year to invalidate a voter-approved measure banning possession of handguns in the city except by law enforcement and other authorized officers.

In June 2006 a San Francisco Superior Court judge struck down Proposition H, approved by a 58-to-42-percent majority of voters in 2005.

Judge James Warren said the measure conflicted with state laws regulating handguns. Warren wrote in a 30-page ruling that the Legislature has passed a "myriad of laws" on handgun possession and use, thus pre-empting local laws.

He wrote, "These laws support the argument that California has an overarching concern in controlling gun use by defining the circumstances under which firearms can be possessed uniformly across the state, without having this statewide scheme contradicted or subverted by local policy."

Warren issued the ruling in a lawsuit filed by the National Rifle Association, four other groups and seven individuals.

The laws passed unanimously Tuesday were more limited in scope. One bans possession or sale of firearms or ammunition on county property. That puts San Francisco on par with Los Angeles County, which has spent years litigating challenges to its own law prohibiting gun shows at the county-owned Fairplex facility.

Another measure passed requires handguns owned by residents to be stored in a locked container or with a trigger lock. A current state law mandates those requirements for the transport of a handgun.

A third law passed requires gun dealers to conduct inventory counts every six months. There is only one gun shop in the entire city.
 
In the same link there is this headline: Vallejo Man Slashes Father; Wanted To Kill Family. It sounds like the SF Supes should be more focused on knives. :barf:
 
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Why run a gun shop in that city? Just put it outside of the city and post some billboards saying "We Love Selling To San Fran Freakos!"
 
SAN FRANCISCO -- The Board of Supervisors passed an array of gun laws Tuesday that followed a judge's decision last year to invalidate a voter-approved measure banning possession of handguns in the city except by law enforcement and other authorized officers.

Apparently, the overturning of the unconstitutional DC ban has gone un-noticed by this group of fascist thugs?
 
I'm glad these cities are so wealth that they do not need all the money they spend on gun control litigation for silly little things like roads, police, public health or transportation.
 
Apparently, the overturning of the unconstitutional DC ban has gone un-noticed by this group of fascist thugs?

Different Circuit. SF is free to concoct any nonsense it likes unless the 9th rules similarly (not likely), or the USSC applies the DC Circuit's logic nationwide.
 
Nothing in these newly passed laws remotely resembles the DC gun ban.

Didn't the DC restrictions include a requirement that a gun be stored in an inoperable condition? Seems similar to SF's requirement that guns be locked. Either prevents immediate use.
 
I believe DC required all firearms in the home - handgun or long gun - to be either disassembled or locked, whether they were being stored or not. Therefore, if one were cleaning a firearm, it could not legally be assembled for a function test. One also could not legally transport a legal handgun from room to room without a license. This significantly exceeds the scope of the new SF ordinance. The handgun on the nightstand while you are sleeping would appear to be legal in SF but would have been illegal in DC.

I should note that I have not read the actual text of the SF ordinances but am solely relying on what has been published in the media.
 
It's pretty common for people to keep handguns in quick-access safes, especially when the homeowner is not around, in urban areas here. Personally, I think that keeping a burglar from having easy access to my loaded pistol is as important a part of personal security as my having access to it. Frankly, this law, while I find it obnoxious, merely mandates what is common practice anyway.

The law about gun shows on City/County property will do nothing but take revenue from the City/County. SF City/County are equivalent, and they cover a very small land area, a bit under 7 miles square. There could be gun shows, on neighboring cities' property, walking distance from nearly anywhere in San Francisco. This is a ridiculous law, but would have essentially zero impact on the availability of firearms and ammunition to either law-abiding citizens, or to criminals. It's a self-defeating peacenik hippie decision, like chasing the Battleship Iowa Museum out of the city because it made people think about war. Stockton was very happy to take the ship, and the tourism revenue it generates.

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The law about gun inventories is a PITA for the gun shop, but in theory they take an inventory anyway.

I don't like these laws. However, compared to DC, and compared to SF's invalidated total handgun ban, they're a joke. A silly joke, by looney left politicians who have to show their hippie constituents that they're "doing something about violence."

If you really think about it, it's a victory for us when they're reduced to doing things like this in the name of "gun control." You have to understand SF to fully grasp that. Well, nobody understands SF, because it makes no sense. But you have to be familiar with it, I guess.:)
 
It's pretty common for people to keep handguns in quick-access safes, especially when the homeowner is not around, in urban areas here. Personally, I think that keeping a burglar from having easy access to my loaded pistol is as important a part of personal security as my having access to it. Frankly, this law, while I find it obnoxious, merely mandates what is common practice anyway.
I'm waiting for enforcement to begin.
 
I moved out a year or so ago

whenever I yearn for the smell of stale urine and the sound of panhandlers
(or a good burrito) I visit.

Progressive is just another word for children hating moron.
 
Got no good burritos in Reno?

Man, I had some great Mexican food in Idaho, last time I was there. It was a pleasant surprise, actually, after having "Mexican food" in Seattle some years back...:p

We have so many taco shops here that I take it for granted. Hardly ever eat the stuff, now that I've gotten my butt back in shape. But when I'm away from here, suddenly I want it.
 
I'm waiting for enforcement to begin.

That's the point. It's unenforceable without violating the Constitution.

There are already laws on the books holding people criminally liable if they leave unlocked guns around and kids get them and misuse them. I oppose those laws as well, but the new SF law doesn't change anything that's actually enforceable.

Again, one has to stand back and look at this. These are the dumb and futile gestures of those who have been beaten.
 
nope

Got no good burritos in Reno?

Reno Mexican food is made for real Mexicans, San Francisco Mexican food
is made for Californians who eat California Cusine....
Lard and other unappealing stuff in Reno burritos if you're in SF try the Azteca Taquria on Church and Market near the liberal bookstore, get the super veggie burrito with black beans.....you will not be hungry the rest of the day.
Burrito's and other good food is the only thing I really miss about SF.
 
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"It sounds like the SF Supes should be more focused on knives."


Don't worry. They'll get around to it.

L.W.
 
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