S&w 500

[Tusker10mm]

I trim, resize ALL new brass and trim once at least. Would be interested in what others use to trim 500 brass???? My Wilson carbide trimmer cutter is too small.
Not new to reloading by any means, just new to reloading this cartridge. Cannot call Sinclair as it is the weekend. THANKS ANYONE>

 

[Shaq]

I resize new brass but I've never trimmed it.

 

[Cheesemaker]

I have recently started reloading 50AE. I plan to use my Hornady Case Trimmer - just need to get the correct sized pilot. The cutter is big enough.

I need a Hornady shellholder too. Their trimmer does not like other brands of shellholder - I have Lee for my 44 Mag (which fits the 50AE head) - does not fit in the trimmer though.

I primarily trim rifle cases - the 50AE headspaces on the case so length is important. I have also been know to trim my 460S&W too.

 

[Tusker10mm]

Well, I already have two trimmers and don't think I can use another. I contacted Sinclair and found the 50cal cutter was discontinued- Went to Wilson and while they say the same thing, they apparently still have some and they are discounted. I have a confirmed order for one. Hope I get it. Will keep ypu poster. It is a carbide cutter for a total of $33.00 shipped. Hers hoping. Yes, I trim all new brass for hunting. It is unreal how much difference there is even in brass.

 

[greyling22]

does it need it? I mean, my 44mag brass never needed trimming. But then, I've never actually had NEW BRASS before.

that said, how about this http://www.midwayusa.com/product/15...tud-large-480-ruger-500-s-and-w-magnum-50-bmg
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/972674/lee-case-length-gage-and-shellholder-500-s-and-w-magnum

15 bucks and you're in business. This system has worked well for me.

 

[MEHavey]

" ...interested in what others use to trim 500 brass? "

Why are you trimming 500S&W brass ?

 

[FROGO207]

I do not trim mine either. But he wants to so the Lee setup is the inexpensive alternative IMHO.

 

[buck460XVR]

Why are you trimming 500S&W brass ?

Simple.........for a consistent crimp on the big boomer.

I trim my .460 brass too, the first time. Folks that shoot pistol and low to moderate velocity revolver loads don't have to, I generally don't either. But for my magnum hunting loads, I trim it all to get it to consistent length so my crimps are consistent. The effect on accuracy at hunting distances is much greater than for those that only shoot 25 yards or less. The consistent heavy crimp also helps ignite the slow powders used for hunting loads and helps prevent bullet jump under heavy recoil in revolvers. Along with .460 hunting loads, I also trim my brass for .44 magnum hunting loads for the same reason.

 

[MEHavey]

I'll be honest, I've just never found my 500 brass to be anywhere near
inconsistent enough to warrant trim-uniforming -- especially with the
dimensions/degree of crimp involved


(Accurate 50-440G/Lyman#2/LilGun/30.0gr/Starline)

 

[TimSr]

It's been about 30 years now, and I've never trimmed revolver brass in my life. I don't mix revolver brass brands and types.

 

[snuffy]

Well, clearly you never loaded magnum handgun ammo meant to be shot at 200 meters.

I'm talking about handgun silhouette. The rams are at either 200 yards, or 200 meters. If you DID NOT trim .357, or 44 mag cases, you would get vertical stringing because of varying crimps. Also lack of a heavy crimp would result in bullets working their way out of the shell by recoil.

I have a trimmer set-up for my 500 S&W, but haven't tried it yet, it's the lee. Some of the cases will get trimmed the next time I load, just have togetaroundtoit.

 

[TimSr]

Well, clearly you never loaded magnum handgun ammo meant to be shot at 200 meters.

True. 200 meter shots were never a consideration for my purposes.

 

[sugarmaker]

Lee makes a collett crimper for .500, I have used it enough to see the that case length does not affect crimp as much as roll (most sensitive, lee die) or taper (redding). I have not had time to test accuracy / velocity sd.

 

[MEHavey]

Well, clearly you never loaded magnum handgun
ammo meant to be shot at 200 meters.

Hmmmm.....
Does coke cans at 100 count ?

(I admit the 500 is a bit of overkill against 12oz Dr Pepper...
but it is 10-4-10 on most days)

 

[trentcwwilson]

You guys have me wanting one now.

 

[Tusker10mm]

Trimming

Yes, I realize there are those that never trim their handgun brass. Or resized new brass for that matter. In the end, it is a matter of what works for you. I just feel that for me to get the best results possible, every thing should be as equal as possible. I do not feel crimping a bullet/or bullets as it were in a different spot as you go along will produce equal results. When I can achieve results like this, and have old timers like a Master Chief , and others, who have forgotten more about reloading that I will ever know ask me about me loads, I feel I am doing something right. I am lucky enough to have the time to devote to such things. Also the reason I own a Ransom Rest.



30 carbine - 3 groups, left, center, & right 75 feet- gun a Ruger Blackhawk:

Stand up shooting--

 

[Wildfire]

I trim. Just trimmed hundreds of .38s. This brass was from an indoor range and it was amazing to see how different many of these were. It is clear they came from many different guns. But, new brass? It is never right. I recently tested a new box of Winchester Supreme .300 win mag hunting rounds for a buddy. Head space was as much as .012" off and varied in only 2o rounds. Most rifle shooters consider .008" a max head space. But, for some reason Winchester though these were OK enough to sell. Trimming does give uniform crimp and on magnums it is more important than other rounds. Accuracy and PSI are directly effected.