S&W Airweight 37

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I am looking at an S&W Airweight on gunbroker. This is a .38 special, that is reported by the seller as manufactured in 1954. I am interested in this gun as a CCW, and also because it was manufactured in the year i was born (yes, i am officially old)

I have read about j-frame guns (alloy) that have cracked frames due to overtightening barrels at manufacture. Is is reasonable to think this 1954 gun would be safe from this 'overtorque' issue since it was made so long ago?

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I am looking at an S&W Airweight on gunbroker. This is a .38 special, that is reported by the seller as manufactured in 1954. I am interested in this gun as a CCW, and also because it was manufactured in the year i was born (yes, i am officially old)

I have read about j-frame guns (alloy) that have cracked frames due to overtightening barrels at manufacture. Is is reasonable to think this 1954 gun would be safe from this 'overtorque' issue since it was made so long ago?

Thank You,
I dont think any Airweights are safe indefinitely, as round count gos up. That said, I suspect the older guns are less susceptible because they used pinned barrels instead of torqued crush washers.
Make sure you inspect the frame underneath the barrel extension (with the cylinder open)- if cracked it will be readily apparent.
Im not a J-frame fan anyway, but for a gun that gets carried much and shot little, they do have a place. Just accept that it will aways have the risk of frame failure there.
 
Hopefully it does not say 37 on it. If it does it isn't from 1954. That being said If you like it and it want a vintage CCW gun and it checks out condition wise then go for it. I personally like J frames of all types. My 37 is a Flat latch from the early 60s in a 3" barrel configuration. I like the Pachmayrs on it since my hands are not small.
Oh, and '54 doesn't make you old, attitude makes you old!
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Thanks for the prompt replies- the number on the bottom of the grip frame is 407xxx. There is no picture of the inside of the frame where model numbers are placed on more recent guns. It is a flat-latch, which i think makes it somewhat older?
 
I am looking at an S&W Airweight on gunbroker. This is a .38 special, that is reported by the seller as manufactured in 1954. I am interested in this gun as a CCW, and also because it was manufactured in the year i was born (yes, i am officially old)

I have read about j-frame guns (alloy) that have cracked frames due to overtightening barrels at manufacture. Is is reasonable to think this 1954 gun would be safe from this 'overtorque' issue since it was made so long ago?

Thank You,

I have read some posts by owners of Taurus lightweights with round counts in the 30,000 round range, if not more, and those aluminum frames have not cracked. I am going to claim that S&W, even back then, designed that revolver to survive that many standard velocity 38 Special rounds. These lightweight pistols are designed for tens of thousands of rounds, not hundreds of thousands. Even then, talking to S&W about my modern airweights, they told me I should not have any timing issues for 5000 rounds. After that, maybe something would need to be replaced. None of those older J frames are designed for +P and a vintage pistol like the one you are looking at, should be standard pressure only. I would not be surprised if the frame cracked in under 1000 rounds of +P.

Aluminum has a finite fatigue lifetime. That is why aircraft have to be rebuilt after a certain number of flights, the aluminum structure develops cracks. Vintage planes have been known to crack off a main wing spar and crash. Steel can be made thick enough that given a certain load, it can have an infinite fatigue lifetime. I want to say, it is very unlikely that any steel firearm is made to an infinite fatigue lifetime, because weight is traded off for portability. Want a five pound 38 snubbie? I know of competition 22lr's with a half million rounds through the tube. I suspect the springs needed replacing, and I am sure the older rifles have erosion in front of the throat due to glass in the primer compound. According to the 100 yard range tester at Lapua, older rimfire rifles in constant use are "loose". I guess the barrel, bolt, receiver peen enough to flex over time. You can look on AR15.com, there was a thread about AR15 bolt lifetime, some bolts cracked lugs at 12,000 rounds, more at 20,000, a few special shot peened types last 30,000 rounds.

I have more faith that a modern aluminum airweight will be stronger and have a longer fatigue lifetime than one made from WW2 era materials and processes. But, is the purpose of your interest to conduct an accelerated lifetime failure test? If not, then shoot standard loads, and you will probably get tired of it before you shoot enough rounds to cause problems.
 
FYI, mine was sighted for 158gr bullets at about 850 fps from the factory. It took some experimenting to get 148gr DEWC to the point of aim using CFE Pistol at 925 FPS.

A nickel plated 3” that left the factory in 1974. I still have the original grips, but these grips makes the J frame fun to shoot the 148 DEWC, just not super accurate like a K, L or N frame.

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Goes without saying with a 37 . No +P and hopefully the pervious owner stayed away from it also..
Which .. personally Im not a +P fan … unless limited duty in a modern 38spl
 
The aluminum 38 snub (642) that I carry sometimes is the only one in my carry rotation that I bought NiB.

I guess I would carry an older aluminum one if it obviously hadn't been shot much.

The steel ones don't concern me as long as they're in good shape mechanically.
 
This happened to a nice older lady that came to the PD to have the gun disposed off.

Pretty interesting. Was the gun dropped or similar? No cracks in the barrel threads. Or do the barrel threads typically flex or push thru the frame threads and survive? Not sure.
 
I doubt she did anything to it. Other that the catastrophic failure. The gun was pristine.

it looks like the classic J frame split under the barrel that finally let go. 7050C2C1-DD12-4A56-B08D-08BE3983AE47.jpeg

(not a gun I handled personally)

My best guess is that as a bullet passes through the barrel stub, that’s in the frame, the barrel stretches just a tiny bit. Like a snake swallowing an egg. The aluminum is less flexible than the steel and, is very thin right there. And it stretches until it splits.

It’s a known issue with the Airweights. I have a 642 that’s 30 years old. Never an issue.
 
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