S&W N-Frame 629 & 625 Questions

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I have some questions that I will fill out to the best of my ability with the "Search" feature, with attribution, but will likely leave holes. My thanks for any help y'all might render.

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My grandmother just passed after a long illness and left me a enough for a revolver & some extras. I want to get a weapon and mildly customize* it to memorialize her and my grandpa (passed years ago).

I have decided on a S&W N-frame, most likely in stainless steel, and would likely prefer a Mountian Gun profile bbl or the partial underlug. The full underlug does not interest me.

I am considering 3 different chamberings:
  • .44mag (Wife already owns .44mag lever gun) 29/629
  • .45Colt (I own nothing in .45Colt) 25/625
  • .45ACP (I own a 1911, S&W1917, & Webley MK VI in .45ACP) 25/625

I would like this revolver to be a powerful big-bore, but I have some other considerations, since I already reload for/own weapons in .44mag & .45ACP.

629/29 is likely the easiest answer, since that seems to be the most popular N-frame.

I would probably send a .45ACP chambered 25/625 to Clark Custom Guns for the .460 Rowland conversion on the cylander, which nips at the heels of .44mag. Does anybody do a .45 Winmag conversion? The .45Winmag ballistics are not as impressive as .460 Rowland, but I bet equivalent performance could be had for less pressure, due to the longer case.

.45Colt is the real dark horse. I own no weapons currently chambered for it and no relaoding dies/brass.

Which years were the "bad" years for S&W quality? How does this relate to the "dash" (model#-revision#)? They were owned by some outfit that let them go south, so I recall.



When/what model numbers for 29, 629, 25, & 625 was the last year of pinned & recessed barrels & the (model#-revision#)?
My research lead me to believe the year was 1982.

29: -2
629: -1
25:
625:
(Recesed N/A for models chambered in .45ACP, I presume.)


When/what model numbers was the "Endurance Package" applied? Was it ever done to the 25/625?

29: -4
629: -2E and up
25:
625:


What are the first years/(model#-revision#) for "the lock?" I am not completely anti-lock, but it is an ugly bugger, IMO, and if I can get a better used S&W without it, so much the better.

29:
629: -5
25:
625:


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629 "dash" translation (Phil DeGraves):
-1 No longer pinned and recessed
-2 redesigned cylinder latch
-3 Square ejector star
-4 Remove the hammer nose and replace with integral firing pin
-5 Safety lock over cylinder latch



29 "dash" translation (Bluesbear):
-2 (made fron 1961-1982) had recessed chambers and a pinned barrel
-3 (1982-1988) no P&R
-4 (1988-1990) had the endurance package.
-5 (1990-1994) had the longer cylinder stop notch and improved bolt block. (Actually those who like to shoot heavy Buffalo Bore and Garrett style loads prefer the -5 over the -4.) The -5 was also the last series to be made with NO MIM parts whatsoever






* Maybe some grips with their names carved into them or some such.
 
I like the 625 mountain gun 45 colt. I have carried it hunting and on Duty as a Police Officer. S&W says +P's of 265 grain or less will not hurt it and mine shoots great. Try to find one that was made in 1996 it does not have the key lock and is plenty strong as long as u dont try to convert to an exotic caliber. Try it i think you will like it
 
My grandmother just passed after a long illness and left me a enough for a revolver & some extras. I want to get a weapon and mildly customize* it to memorialize her and my grandpa (passed years ago).
jfruser,
First let me say that I'm very sorry for your loss.
In honor of your Grandparents I would suggest a gun that will become a classic. The S&W 625 JM .45 Revolver is going to be one of those guns IMO. It comes with Special Wooden "Jerry Miculek" Grips, Speed Trigger, Gold Bead Black Patridge front sight and a sepcial serial number series too. That revolver is as close as you can get to a Performance Center revolver without paying the huge price for one. It's worth taking a look at IMO. http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/...angId=-1&parent_category_rn=15706&isFirearm=Y
 
I agree re the 625JM... mine is almost two years old now - and what a winner. Leave it in .45 ACP. Get a shellholder/shellplate for .45 Auto Rim and load .45 Colt lead, like 255gr LSWC's, to over .45 Colt levels - I get a safe 885 fps from mine, others go well over 900 fps. Recall that the .45 Colt is a 14kpsi round, while the .45 ACP/AR is a 21 kpsi round. As to the 'full lug', which I also dislike, you can't see it while you are shooting a 625JM... and it does keep the muzzle flip down. I will leave it as a .45 ACP/AR revolver.

For a 629, I am a convert. I replaced my 629MG last year with a standard, actually made last April, 4" 629 SKU 163603. It weighs in a whole two ounces more, mostly in the non-tapered barrel, while some mass is also increased in the larger hammer and trigger. It also has a w/o rear and red ramp front sight, improvements over the MG's blk/blk sights. That JM has the best front sight - a gold beaded Patridge in a spring loaded DX-style mount for no-tools change. My 4" 629 goes well with it's 6" 629 sibling here - both are oddities for me - they wear the new Hogue .500 Magnum backstrap-enclosing rubber grips for great recoil control, while all of my other S&W's sport wood. The Lock is a non-issue here. That 4" 629 is a fine revolver!

Stainz
 
Another vote for a 625-8JM. I got one a year ago and shoot it alot. I mostly shoot .45 AR. Very nice. I also like the front sight, but I prefer a ramp. The front sight is interchangeable.
 
ArchAngelCD:

Thanks. She had 80 good years, 8 years of grim endurance, buried 2 husbands, and died with children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren about her.

Does the 625JM come with a trigger job?

The 625JM already has grip & sideplate customization where I would want to do somehting similar. Neither of my grandfolks initials are "JM," either.
 
The trigger is custom, not the same as the stock M625, other than that I don't know how much they did to the trigger but it is very smooth.

You really have to hold this gun and take a good look at it, I'm betting you won't put it down.
 
I know you said stainless but i think the model 22 would be a great base for what you want to do:
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Maybe some scrimshawed ivories or some nice stags and light engraving from S&W? I just love the classic look of these and you already know how great N frames are in 45ACP... If I had the money I would get one, fully engraved and nickel plated.
 
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